Re: Sharring the story of Husko the Hero...
Thank you very very much for your kind words miss Valerie and goldengirl88...
but...
since you mentioned ''let nature take its course''...
If Husko never got that initial cortisol (or better yet never went to that vet-visit and these f*****g vets) ,and because his only symptoms since spring were mild hind leg weakness due to a bit of muscle wasting (NO other cushings symptom....he was always the sleepy/bored fellow at home since the start), he would still be alive and probably have a few years ahead as a happy senior baby-dog...
Since November we were trying to fight what damage had been caused by the idiocy of the vets in the months prior...
Damage for which I actually paid the vets...I paid them to kill my baby for f***s sake...
...With funds that we so much needed since November for this fight!
No matter how I look at everything that happened...I find absolutely nothing redeeming or ''meant to happen''...
btw,I don't know what the laws in the rest of the world say, but here in Greece dogs are just property/objects...and you can only go to court for the purchase value of your dog and not on any ''medical fookups''...simply disgusting...
P.S. I just can't seem to find on the internet what the HYPO+++ readings mean under ''morphology flags''? Obvious guess is he was HYPO (earlier blood-tests showed that too)
Re: Sharring the story of Husko the Hero...
I'm thinking of trying to find a way to upload all of Huskos' test/mri/ultrasound etc. and mailing them probably to M.Peterson or any other highly respected vet ,asking for a written answer...(assuming i can find their e-mail at least)
Ive already posted on FB what happened to Husko ,including the vet names that did all this...
If they find out and sue me it would be so rewarding to shut their mouths by a world renowned vet...
Because here...they just lobby with one another...
I mean...
All summer long he (Elias) was gloating that he had seen ''20 huskies with liver cancer''...I wonder how many of those were cushpups receiving the wrong treatment...
...even on the day Husko left us...i went there with 2ml of blood i took in a syringe in my panic state ,and asked if they could tell me anything testing it.
He smiled...and said 'no' and continued 'he was lucky to live this long with all the conditions he HAD''...there were other clients (because that's what we are to them...simply clients) in the office of course...
I wanted to kill him saying ''HAD? HAD? You caused them you #%^#%^!!''
...but held my self together...said ''thanks'' and walked out...
Vets like this are dangerous...
Re: Sharring the story of Husko the Hero...
Yes they are dangerous and sadly, good luck to anyone trying to sue for negligence as I believe that many stick together. We trust them to help our beloved pets and too many aren't knowledgeable enough.
I went through 3 vets before finding a qualified specialist 2 hours away. If I hadn't found this forum, I might not have recognized that they were not handling treatment properly. Daisy would not be alive now.
As modern as the US is when it comes to animal treatment, crimes against animals still aren't punished strongly enough. Vets are still immune unless they do something obviouslywrong and it becomes wide spread knowledge.
You made friends here and we'll help you all that we can.
Know that your research is not in vain, even though Husko didn't win his battle with Cushings, the knowledge that you have might help to save other believed pets.
As for your so called vet, I've always believed that what comes around goes around and he won't get away with this lightly. He's arrogant and will make more mistakes. Sooner or later, he won't be able to hide behind his cocky attitude.
Hugs.
Re: Sharring the story of Husko the Hero...
The problem with a macro tumor is that it is very hard on them once the tumor starts to grow and put pressure on different areas of the brain. When that happens you truly are in a place of trying to do what you can to give them the best possible chance.
Vetroyl has been shown to increase tumor growth of macro's unfortunately most people don't even know it is a macro until the symptoms of one shows up during cushing treatment.
If you know before hand then you don't usually treat with cushing meds, but instead treat with prednisone, which though it is a steroid and can have the same effects as cushings, can relieve pressure on the brain for a period of time.
It's really a catch 22, in that you are darned if you do and darned if you don't and the only real treatment usually is radiation therapy, which they have a new one that is only 3 treatments, very mild on the dog with minimum side effects. We have one dog who has under gone this treatment currently at the University of Davis California. That dog is doing very well. We have another one who has undergone radiation therapy at the University of Florida and continues to do very well, almost a year later.
You don't know though if these treatments will work until you try them. This addresses only the macro tumors. For the liver you want to get the cortisol under control and hope that the damage to the liver isn't too great. Both the prednisone or the high cortisol can cause liver damage though.
Sharlene and molly muffin
Re: Sharring the story of Husko the Hero...
doxiesrock912
I just can't trust any vet anymore after this...
I will just do what test is needed in the future...ask their complete written diagnosis and proposed treatment with their signature (99% just write a medication and send you off here...)...and after checking myself i'll do what i think is right!
Some people have already told me their problems with this vet-office...
It actually started good 3-4 years ago...but since...too many people coming in...and diagnosis have become a 20sec hurry up-job...
I mean...Damn it! You're dealing with living beings! Not a faulty motor of a car that can be replaced if you do wrong...
Thank you for considering me a friend! I do too!
If there is anything keeping me from not loosing it completely is maybe, just maybe , my experience might help someone else...
That would make Husko proud!
I think that is why most stick here after loosing their baby too...
molly muffin
I think Husko did pretty good on only natural supplements and healthy food since late November to January, considering all the damage done June to mid-november.
February-March developed into a nightmare for some reasons explained before...(mainly hurt leg and extreme lack of funds by then)
But, should never had started Vetoryl again (or maybe a 10mg dose would be enough to make the tumor attack in order for Artemix to work...which i'm pretty sure it did).
Should have used Melatonin for that instead of Vetoryl ,but i only found out recently that it drops cortisol levels...i only knew it promotes sleep...
Re: Sharring the story of Husko the Hero...
Iraklis,
When Tia was first diagnosed with Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia in 2010, I so trusted this vet that I never even saw her test results. The vet also kept wanting her to get vaccinated each year. I didn't do it though.
When she got sick in 2012 they wouldn't let me bring her into the office, said it was kennel cough and just gave me antibiotics for her. Two different rounds and still didn't want me to bring her in. She was getting worse so I found another vet and they did an exam and took x-rays and found she had an enlarged heart with lots of fluid and a spot on her liver. At that time, the vet said she also suspected Tia had Cushing disease. We decided to get the heart condition under control first and worry about the Cushings later. She did get better so we set up the ACTH for August 9th , but she died August 11th. She never got to start any treatment for her Cushings.
I request and received all Tia's test from the old vet and was amazed at the results. I didn't really understand them, but could see the numbers were really high. And on each test, the lab request a urine sample be sent in within so many days of each test, but on the next test it would state that they did not receive the sample. From what I've read in my Cushings research, I think Tia had Cushings in 2010, but was misdiagnosed. I think the vet didn't know anything about the disease.
I also think you are right in that most vets are there for the money, rush you in and rush you out, write a prescription and send you on your way. That's what he did with Tia and the kennel cough. Again misdiagnosed and had he actually seen her maybe he would have caught the congestive heart failure sooner and she would still be alive today.
There will always be a lot of "what if's" and I'll never really know why my sweet angel died. It has been seven and a half months and I cry every day for her. I still come here because I'm not judged by anyone on this forum because they understand what I'm going through and I can pour my heart out to them and they cry right along with me. I've said many times this forum has been my "saving grace" because without everyone here, I surely would have lost my mind by now.
Please please please forgive yourself as I am trying so hard to do for myself. You, just like me have another baby still alive that desperately needs you and all your knowledge. Take care and know that you and Angel Husko will continue to be in my thoughts and prayers.
Much love,
Donna and my angel babies, Tia and Tippi
Re: Sharring the story of Husko the Hero...
Iraklis,
there's just so much unknown and uncertainty with Cushings and even less is known about the homeopathic treatments. I would much rather go that route bu there isn't enough information for me to take that chance with Daisy. As I type this, she's at the IMS vet at Cornell in Stamford getting her ACTH test and CBC done too. I'm hoping for some good numbers this time as I really don't want to increase her dosage again. She's only 11.5lbs.
Yes, we're a huge support system here and when one person loses a family member, we all feel it. Many do as you have done and stay to share their experience and knowledge with others who are still fighting the fight.
I'd never heard of Cushings before finding this site and I have learned so much.
I also think that helping others is part of the healing process and a great legacy for those who have crossed over the rainbow bridge.
Hugs.
Re: Sharring the story of Husko the Hero...
Iraklis:
I know what you mean about the vets and I agree. We should be able to hold them responsible when they mess up, just like a Dr. Unfortunately pets here are treated as personal property. We need to really change things. I think the best thing to honor Husko would be to pay it forward and help others. You have a good knowledge of this illness and maybe that could help someone's dog. We are having terrible wind here all nite and today. Sunday we are expecting snow. I got two walks in with the dogs before the rain started. I hope you have a good day friend.
Patti
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To Donna (and angel babies, Tia and Tippi )
Yesterday when i woke up...I had thoughts that scared me...
I've always said people who commit suicide are weak...but there I was actually considering it...
Same night...I just couldn't get no sleep remembering all the ''fookups'' of the vets...
I am more enraged than ever before in my life!!!
I owe it to my baby Husko to let people know his story and what the vets did to him!
Maybe some other poor doggie will be saved if people going there learn about this...or even the vets become more responsible!
I've already post their names and fatal errors on FB so people will know...I have no money left to sue them...
If they sue me...so be it...A little bit of Justice be done for Husko ,Tia and every doggie mistreated like this!
doxiesrock912 & goldengirl88
I know...
I am not leaving this place...
btw, Husko wasn't on homeopathics...just natural supplements (since late Novemeber) and/plus Artemix&Vetoryl (since February).
Animals here are also just property...sickening!
Do you know if there is a way i can maybe contact Dechra or preferably M.Peterson DVM, ACVIM for a written/personal answer concerning the actions of the vets and what a big mistake/crime etc. it is to not follow the Vetoryl protocol and not informing me on the side effects of it ,etc.?
Re: Sharring the story of Husko the Hero...
Iraklis,
is there a board that governs vet practices in Greece? If so, I would report Husko's story to them. If you have a facebook page, I would also tell your story there too for all to see. Word will spread quickly.
Negative feedback always spreads quickly.