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MarleyWhippet
01-12-2015, 02:05 PM
I dont know where to start, so im afraid i may ramble-I shall apologise now for that!
My whippet Marley is 4 years old. Though we now believe this to be a lie and believe him to be at least 8.
Shortly after we got him he went bald on his neck and belly. It has never grown back, but we thought nothing of it.
Since then hes had various symptoms- all wide apart when we noticed them, we are now just realising that together they could point to cushings.
He has a very stiff gait in his back legs, ive never seen a dog like it! The last 2 weeks it has been causing him pain, hes been snapping at my other dogs when they sit near him as they accidentally knock him. This isn't like him.

He has always scavenged, as im sure anyone with sighthounds understands thats the way they are. So again, we assumed it was just him. However its fairly extreme, we have to have locks on the fridge and lock cupboards with the bins in. Hes never got in since we locked them, but he will always chance it and scratches the fridges and bins. He seems to be ALWAYS hungry, this is getting worse with him trying to steal food from plates. As a trainer i do alot of work on this- its not a behavioural problem, he just really is hungry most of the time :/
Hes recently lost weight. Hes now only 14kg ( he is a large whippet who generally averages at 16kg)
Recently hes had 2 seizures, an absence seizure as well as a focal seizure.

He is covered in scars, he only has to look at something and he tears his skin! Again its a breed problem, however i have another whippet and know many and they have less scars between them all than he has. His skin just doesn't heal properly and he bruises easily. In the last few weeks hes developed open sores too :(

The biggest problem i have to hand is- he is reactive to people looking at him never mind touching him. We have chatted to vets and they understand this is a problem and they have agreed that its best i "prepare" him for vets for a week or so until hes comfortable with his muzzle.

First of all, does this sound like Cushings? ( he has more symptoms, but right now i can't recall them- typical!)
Next what tests are essential for diagnosis? Ive seen various kinds of tests but i wondered if they needed to be spaced apart or i could get them done within a couple of vet visits and which ones are most accurate? I have no knowledge really on this condition and just want to know more to help him.
He has always reacted to chemicals, and throws up badly whether its wormers, flea stuff and was very out of it following vaccinations. I would ideally like to avoid chemicals where possible.

Thankyou for reading.

Harley PoMMom
01-12-2015, 02:53 PM
Hi and welcome to you and Marley,

I have manually approved your membership so now all your posts will be seen right away. Also please just disregard the validation email that was sent to you from k9cushings.

Oh my there does seem to be much going on with dear Marley, and hopefully when we all put our heads together we will figure out what that is, ok?

Most of Marley's symptoms can be attributed to Cushing's and/or other non-adrenal illnesses such as a thyroid issue. There is an article written by Dr. Jean Dodds, who is considered one of the foremost experts in pet thyroid problems, where she discusses behavioral issues with Thyroiditis, here's a link to that article: http://www.canine-epilepsy.com/thyroiditisbehavior.html An excerpt from that article:
In recent years, clinicians have noted the sudden onset of behavioral changes in dogs around the time of puberty or as young adults. Most of the animals have been purebreds or crossbreeds with an apparent predilection for certain breeds. Neutering these animals usually does not alter the symptoms and the behaviors may even intensify. Many of these dogs belong to certain breeds or dog families susceptible to a variety of immune problems and allergies (e.g. Golden Retriever, Akita, Rottweiler, Doberman Pinscher, English Springer Spaniel, Shetland Sheepdog, and German Shepherd Dog). The clinical signs in these animals, before they show the sudden onset of behavioral aggression, can include minor problems such as inattentiveness, fearfulness, seasonal allergies, skin and coat disorders (e.g. pyoderma, allergic inhalant or ectoparasite dermatitis, alopecia, and intense itching). These may be early subtle signs of thyroid dysfunction, with no other typical signs of thyroid disease being manifested.

So my recommendation would be to rule out any thyroid problem, which I would have the blood panel sent to Dr. Dodds to interpret, link to her website: http://www.hemopet.org/education/jean-dodds-veterinarian.html

If it does turn out that Marley does not have any thyroid issue and that Cushing's is suspected we can definitely help you with that. Cushing's is a treatable disease but success in treatment does depend on a few things; keen owner observation, a pet parent willing to educate themselves about Cushing's, and a vet/IMS that has experience treating Cushing's and is knowledgeable about the protocols for Cushing's.

The two medications generally prescribed for canine Cushing's are Lysodren/Mitotane and Vetoryl/Trilostane. They are strong drugs and one drug is no safer than the other, adverse effects are usually not seen unless the proper treatment protocols are not followed. Also the medications do not cure Cushing's they are given to help abate the symptoms from Cushing's.

If you have any questions please do not hesitate to ask them and know we are here for you and Marley. ;)

Hugs, Lori

molly muffin
01-12-2015, 09:28 PM
I just want to welcome you to the forum, as Lori has gotten started off with her post.
Also you will want to rule out diabetes, with a blood test for glucose. Although ravenous sounds more like cushings, weight loss tends to go more with thyroid and diabetes.

An LDDS (8 hour test) and/or ACTH, you could have an ultrasound done to look at internal organs.

MarleyWhippet
01-16-2015, 03:53 PM
Thankyou for your replies. :) Its is greatly appreciated.
I will ensure these are ruled out , will these require different bloods being taken? how many blood tests will he have to have?
Sorry for the many (probably basic!) questions! I suffer with anxiety myself (as well as him!) and like to have an idea of what is ahead. As much as possible anyway! :)

Harley PoMMom
01-16-2015, 06:28 PM
Diabetes and thyroid levels are usually checked on a regular Chemistry blood panel, Diabetes is abbreviated with GLU, and thyroid is T4. However to be able to see the whole picture with the thyroid a thyroid blood panel should be done and Dr Dodds with Hemopet/Hemolife is who I strongly recommend sending it to.


Hemolife is dedicated to providing the highest quality laboratory diagnostic work and expert interpretation of data. This service is available to veterinarians worldwide and to individual animal owners through their veterinarian. Hemolife is unique in routinely offering expert clinical interpretive diagnostic comments that take into account the age, sex, and breed type, and activity of the animal; this yields an expected normal reference range for an individual pet (termed the “Case Specific” range on our reports) that differs from the generic broad reference range for the species (termed “General Range” on our reports). Hemolife has participated in the regular Endocrinology Proficiency Testing from the Veterinary Laboratory Association Quality Assurance Program (VLA-QAP) since 2008.

That's an excerpt from her website and can be found here: http://www.hemopet.org/veterinary-diagnostic-laboratory.html

And please do feel free to ask all the questions you want, ;)

Hugs, Lori