Spencer - Ready to start trilo, now three seizures in an hour (Spencer has passed)

[Renee]

So glad to hear of the improvements. :)

I didn't bathe Tobey for quite a while when her cushings started up. I didn't want to get her CC wet.

She has been groomed a few times in the last couple months now, but with her coat going through such changes, it was very necessary. I think a gentle bath with a groomer might be a good idea. They often have medicated or special shampoo for very delicate/sensitive skin.

[molly muffin]

So glad to hear that Spencer and you are both getting some sleep.

I bet he does feel pretty good, getting rest, not having seizures, that take a toll.

Wow, a gallop even! Go Spencer!!!

Awww, we're all so proud of Spencer, he's doing good and huge hugs to you and your hubby, we know this isn't easy to deal with and just really enjoy the good days and may the bad be far and few between.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Took my lil man in this morning to make sure his ears weren't infected. We thought they were looking suspicious a few weeks ago, and treated them with antibiotic drops we had on hand. We didn't have enough for a full course treatment, which had me concerned. Good news...his ears looked good! One had some residual bacteria, so we have new ointment to continue treating for a few more days! Lol...everyone at the clinic I go to knows Spencer so well and they just love him and think he is such a handsome fella! They did notice how much more alert he was, compared to a month ago and felt he was doing so much better! Today was a good day!!!

I hope you all are having a great weekend too!

[molly muffin]

Hurrah for good days!! Glad his ears are looking pretty good and he continues to be chipper and happy little guy.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I am so happy to learn things have turned around for Spencer. I know you have to be thrilled he is doing better. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Yes, Spencer is able to enjoy life so much more than he had not too long ago! Spark has returned to his eyes, he's alert and has more strength! He can poop without falling! What a thing to get excited about...lol! These are victories I am going to claim for him!

He's gone a whole week again without a seizure!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
All I can say is thank God this is tremendous progress. I am so happy for you. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Thank you, Patti! He seems a little tired today. I'm wondering if his weekend seizures are because his routine is messed up on the weekends and he's not resting all day like he does during the week while we are at work. Something for us to consider!

Yesterday was busy...today we had down time, hopefully he isn't too stressed and will sleep well tonight!

[molly muffin]

A whole week! That is awesome! So glad to hear that Spencer continues to do good.

hugs
sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Week and 1/2 and no petit mal or grand mal seizures! Still mild focul point, but those don't seem to drain Spencer like the others, so I consider this good progress! He is actually getting a little bossy!!!

Thank you God in Heaven for answered prayers! We have plans this weekend that will test his stress coping abilities, please continue to pray he handles everything and is able to sleep thru the night with no problems!

[molly muffin]

We're right there with you Terry. I am so proud of you and Spencer and your hubby. You've done an awesome job of giving Spencer the best chances possible in every way.
Hope this weekend goes very well for all 3 of you!

hugs
sharlene and molly muffin

[doxiesrock912]

That's wonderful news!
Good luck this weekend Spencer!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
So nice to hear this little boy has made good progress. Hope things continue over the weekend. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Well....we have come to realize Spencer has definite limitations! We went camping with friends and left him for an hour alone while we had pot luck dinner. BIG MISTAKE! He got so stressed out during that time, he suffered the same physical issues as when he got tested. Couldn't walk, legs kept knuckling under on him. We were really concerned at his behavior, so last night after giving him his seizure meds, I gave him some valium. Thankfully he slept very well....no seizure!

Today, he was still weak and sleeping alot. One symptom he has had today that he hasn't had before was panting. Seemed very sensitive to heat and sunlight! We are home now so he is back to his normal routine!

I felt so bad yesterday evening after realizing his trauma!!!

[molly muffin]

Yikes, that would have been scary. So, stress really does a number on him it seems. :(

Sorry about that but hopefully now he is home, things will settle right back down into a normal routine and no seizures or weakness.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Just want to add that we were concerned about how he would do camping. He can deal with being alone at home during the week...we think because we have always worked and that has been his expected routine. He always had Lexi to keep him company, while we worked but also when we camped. He has always had separation issues, but it seems worse now since Lexi is gone! He does NOT want us to leave him alone in our 5th wheel for even a few minutes. He lays by the door and barks hysterically!

I was worried about how he would do, and he confirmed my fears! :(

We have more camping obligations coming up, and plan on taking turns with activities so one of us will stay with him at all times. I hope this works out for him! So much worry about my sweet boy!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
So sorry to hear your baby got a little rattled by the change. Just wanted you to know that I am among several on here who have said their dogs have gotten clingy. Tipper was very independent before all this, did not need me for anything. She was a very strong willed dog. Now that has completely changed. I never leave her, but that is because I am home and don't work anymore. When I absolutely have to go to the Dr. or something important I get her a sitter who is in touch with me on my IPhone so I can see her if something is going wrong. She has cries which she never ever did, when I leave. When I get back she screams and goes crazy crying almost like a child would sob. I keep her with me at all times unless going to the Dr. because she is real clingy now. She must be in the same room with me always, even in the bathroom! I don't just think it is Spencer, I think this comes from the disease. Tipper is smart and knows she is not well and I think that scares her and she wants me near in case something happens she knows I will fix it. I am glad Spencer has settled back into his routine. God Bless him he has had a tough road to walk. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Patti, thank you for the input! Spencer has also become very needy, and it makes perfect sense what you described! Much like a sick child that wants to be held! He does not want me out of sight....only exception is when I am getting ready to go to work in the mornings. He will go in his crate, and wait for his treat when I get ready to leave home!

Saturday when i held him after pot luck dinner, he just totally crashed in my arms! I was sitting with friends around a campfire, and he went to sleep. Didn't wake up from our conversation and laughter! He was so exhausted and must have felt really bad! I ended up going in the RV so he could have peace & quiet!

[Spencersmom]

Don't know if it's the warmer weather, but Spencer is definitely panting now....when he never did before. Not sure if it's because of his disease or the meds. We are just entering into a little bit warm temps....what will happen come summer? Wracking my brain trying to figure out how to manage his comfort level....keep him cool enough during the day and at night.

Is this just the progression of his illness or is this due to spring weather?

[doxiesrock912]

Terry, dogs with Cushings do not tolerate heat well. Daisy pants too and won't walk when it's too hot for her. This has begun already so we'll walk at night when it's cooler and early morning too.

[labblab]

Terry, is Spencer still taking the same dose of Vetoryl? There may not yet be a lot of research regarding interactions between these newer seizure meds and Vetoryl, but it may be possible that the seizure meds are altering the effectiveness of the Vetoryl and what you are seeing is an increase in the Cushing's symptoms. I understand your not wanting to get involved with a bunch more ACTH testing nor possibly increasing his Vetoryl at this stage, but it is just a thought as to what may be going on.

Marianne

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
The day before yesterday we had the worst thunder ever and Tipper is afraid of it and had a terrible time. Yesterday I had to leave her with the sitter and go to my Dr. in Pittsburgh. I noticed both days she was panting. I assume the fight or flight kicked in and her cortisol soared to compensate for it being so low. She seems ok right now and it is hot and humid, she just walked. maybe from the weekend Spencer got himself so worked up that his cortisol went soaring?? If I see Tipper panting the first thing I do is get a cool wet cloth and wipe her head down. If it continues I know it is not from her being hot, but nervous. Maybe this is what is happening to Spencer. Glad he is having a better quality of life on the seizure meds. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Sorry I didn't post before now! Spencer hasn't had any additional issues with panting, so maybe it was from a big cortisol dump from his stress!

I did have a big surprise waiting for me when I came home from work on wednesday, however!

We have a baby gate blocking our stairs going down to our basement. Well, when I went to work I apparently didn't latch the gate securely. When I arrived home, Spencer was stranded on the second step below the landing!!!:eek: i don't know how long he was stuck there, but it was long enough to affect him! Lordy have mercy!!! He is going to give me a heart attack yet! :(

He has never done anything like that before! And then today, he barked at hubs like he was a stranger!:confused:

[molly muffin]

Oh poor Spencer getting stuck on the step. :( My molly isn't allowed to go downstairs as she'll go down but then can't get back up (due to her back legs and back), so we gate the stairs now too.

Did Spencer calm down after a bit with your hubs? Stress can cause many things, so I wouldn't rule anything out as to what the cause of that might have been. Molly sometimes will bark at my hubby through the window like he is a stranger. I don't know if it is eyesight going or what that causes it and she doesn't do it all the time.

They do get the blood pressure going don't they. :)

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
This little Spencer can surely get his mom going! Poor little fellow stuck on the step, wonder how long he was there? Hope he continues to do well as he sounds like a real character always giving his mom a nervous breakdown!! I get like that with Tipper so I completely understand. They are no less than a child in our eyes! Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Yes, Spencer is quite the character....and as stubborn as they come! He has more determination than I know what to do with, which is probably why he's managed to work thru so many of his issues so far! We see slight declines in him daily, and then he'll rally around a little...and you can just see that he is fighting so hard! We now have to support him when he tries to poop! Even on his good days, he is unable to squat without falling. The expression in his little eyes just breaks my heart!

This has been quite the journey for us! We could not have handled it this well had it not been for all of y'all here offering your support, advice and encouragement!!!

To answer an earlier question about his meds, the combination he is on is the most compatible. His Dr's don't want to increase the vetoryl while they have increased his kepra in increments till we've gotten to a theraputic level. At this point, Spencer obviously is intolerant to any undue stress, which has me worried sick. We have plans for the coming July holiday, that has us in a real dilemma!! Judging from his anxiety attack last weekend, and the results on him physically, I don't know what we're going to do!! {{sigh}}:confused:

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
It seems the storms are over here for now and my Tipper will get a break. I hope that little munchkin Spencer has a good weekend, he is just sooo cute. I left Tipper in the kitchen for a few minutes yesterday to run to the bathroom, she started crying immediately, and when I did not come right away she started to howl. This has definitely affected her comfort level of being alone, as she would never think of doing that before she got sick with this. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Patti, I can totally relate to the separation anxiety! Spencer has become my little shadow...even in the bathroom!

Spencer seems to be getting weaker. We went camping again this weekend, and everyone noticed how much his health has declined! We kept him with us at all times, making necessary accomodations so he was never alone! Boy was that expensive...lol...since friday we would have gone out to eat with our group, we instead provided hot chili dogs for dinner with chips, dips & fixin's! We kept him with us too for pot luck dinner and breakfast at our campsite! So much of the time he slept thru the feastivities.....until the food came out!!!

Love that sweet lil man!

[molly muffin]

Awww, Spencer. I'm sorry he seems to be getting weaker. This whole thing really takes a toll on their bodies and he's already just a little guy.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[doxiesrock912]

Stubborn you say, are you sure Spencer isn't part dachshund? :)

This disease sucks. Yesterday I went to a dachshund race. It was bittersweet for sure. Great to see everyone with their rescue doxies having fun but heartbreaking that Daisy Mae wouldn't have been able to handle it. I hope that your vet finds a balance soon and that Spencer improves!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I hope Spencer can turn this around again and get stronger. He is so tiny and I guess all this has really taken a toll on that little body of his. I hope to hear he has rallied and is once again on the mend. I left Tipper in the kitchen for a few minutes yesterday and she cried so bad she sounded like a child that was devastated. Never has she done this in her whole life, she is tuff as they come and this crying just kills me. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

I wish he could turn around too! His little body is under so much now!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
just know I say a prayer for this little guy each nite with my Tipper, for both your sakes I hope they are answered. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Patti, you are so sweet!! Thank you for your prayers!

Spencer fell in his poop again this morning, and I had to help him get in his crate before leaving for work. Bless his little heart, his hind legs just gave out on him and he couldn't get back up. His expression was so pitiful!!! His eyes just had this pleading look!! I just feel so bad for him. I see changes and can't help but wonder sometimes if we are being fair to him. Is he suffering, is he uncomfortable....how does he feel when he falls and can't get back up.

[Spencersmom]

Spencer's skin is soooooooo loose...on his body, his legs even the top of his head!!! I try to give him little body messages, but there seems to be no muscle, just loose skin! When he stands now, his front legs are bowed way out. Is this from the Cushings? If so, what causes that?

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
Tipper has that too. There is a lot if fat redistribution, and muscle wasting with this disease. Tipper's skin is so thin, and her back legs were big and muscular before all this. When they are controlled it should stop, but I think it does keep on to a lesser extent. Hope that little boy improves, he has had quite a time with all this. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

oh poor Spencer. I agree with Patti, it is the loss of muscle mass, along with weakness and redistribution of fat that changes how they look, how they stand and mobility too. It all sort of adds up.

You're doing an awesome job with him.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
just checking Spencer to see how the little guy is doing. He seems to be doing better with the seizures so that is a great blessing.
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Sharlene and Patti, thank you for checking in on my lil man and letting me know this is part of his disease! I wish we could increase his Vetoryl, as I don't think it's high enough to control the cushings, but to do that places him at further risk for seizure activity. This is the dillimma the neurologist explained to me! So we're in a "catch 22" so to speak.

So far now, he has gone 3 1/2 weeks with no petit mal or grand mal seizures! I am so thankful for that!!!

Lol.....he has a new thing now after work! It's so darn funny! He's really vocal and has no problem barking and fussing at us to feed him as soon as we get home from work....and if we don't give him enough, he keeps fussing at us until we satisfy his appetite! Such a strong willed little boy!!! He gets chicken and rice with peas. At bedtime I give him organic kibble to make sure his daily nutritional requirements are met. Love my baby!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I am glad all is sounding good. He is a force to be reckoned with when it comes to food, so don't mess with Spencer! Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Ok...new question. i think I read somewhere that Cushings can affect their throat. Is that true? Spencer seems to be having some issues drinking water, and at times now will gag and act like he's choaking The drinking water thing....he starts drinking, then stops and looks like he's trying to swollow, coughs, has to take several breaths then drinks several more laps, then repeats. Sometimes afterwards, he choaks, gags and coughs up some of the water he drank.

While he's been seizure free for 4 weeks now...(huge yay) I have this terrible gut feeling he is going to have an episode! Last night he didn't sleep well, had to take him out at 3 am to potty, feed him and then he spent the remainder of the night in his crate! I still can't get used to this new behavior, sleeping in his crate! This morning, he did fuss at me for not getting up when he thought I should!!! Lol....stinker sat at the bedroom door and BARKED! It's like he was saying....hey get up! You've slept long enough!

[doxiesrock912]

Yes, if you read Tipper's thread, Patti has written a lot about this very issue. Tipper receives periodic adaquan shots which seem to help.

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
Yes Cushings can weaken the trachea. It is cartliage and the Cortisol weakens it making the trachea susceptible to collapsing. They are rings of cartilage that get flat and the dog cannot breathe. Is he making honking noises too. When they start honking it is getting worse. Little dogs are very prone to this, so he has two factors working on it just like Tipper. When they drink water that makes it worse and they gag or cough. Tipper gets Adequan shots twice a month she has been getting them for many months. To start out you have to have a series of them for two weeks and then once-twice a month one for maintenance. It very much helps Tipper to the point where I can tell when her next shot is due. It is made from cow tracheas and it binds to the cartilage to strengthen it, it will also help with other joint problems etc. It is an intramuscular shot that will make their leg sore. I alternate with Tipper's back legs so she does not get too many in one leg. I would address this if it were my dog as it will get worse. I hope that Spencer is not going to have another seizure, as you said you felt one coming on. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

How is Spencer doing today?

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Hi Sharlene & Patti....sweet little Spencer has been by my side all day today. He slept well last night (thank goodness) no seizures!!!

We spent the day outside today and had to create a cool environment for him, so i got his favorite pillow out, made an ice pack then laid it in his pillow. Then i got a towel, wetting one corner and laid that over the ice pack providing moist coolness. Then to shield him from the suns rays that filter thru our pergola, i opened an umbrella to cover him. He was soooooo comfy and slept like a newborn pup!

He definitely has no tolerance to heat, so i'm really glad this worked, as hubs & I love to sit outside.......especially after this never ending winter!! I have a feeling ziploc bags and ice are going to be our best buds!

I hope you've had a wonderful holiday....remember our Vets and the service they have given so we are able to enjoy our freedom!:D

[Spencersmom]

Posted a pic of him sleeping on my leg...lol....but it's upside down! Couldn't see a way to rotate it. Oh well, he is resting comfortably in the pic, enjoying his time with momma! Back to work tomorrow...boo hoo!

[molly muffin]

Sounds like you came up with an excellent solution that Spencer was quite happy with. Awesome! You'll be able to enjoy may days outside with the little guy hopefully.

Hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

:( at 2:20 am, I was jolted out of a deep sleep by Spencer crying out during a seizure! It was a petit mal, thankfully not grand mal.....and he's dodged the bullet for four weeks. Hoping for no more!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
Oh goodness I am so sorry to hear this, I guess the only silver lining is that is was a petite instead of a grand. I hope that is the only one for a long time. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Awww, poor baby and poor you. I know they are scary. Hopefully no more. Do you think there was a trigger for it or random?

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
Just doing my daily check on that little rascal Spencer. Hope no more seizures last nite? Blessings
patti

[Spencersmom]

Hi Patti & Sharlene!

I'm not sure the cause of lil man's seizure yesterday morning, just that I had a gut feeling he was going to have one. His sleep at night is very disturbed by his gasping for air! He's also restless. Don't know if it is because the temps are warmer or not. He's such a challenge for a tiny little guy!

Last night no seizures, but his breathing was keeping me awake, so hubs took him into the other room so I could sleep. I had a training session to present at work, so I needed a good night's sleep. (Thanking sweet hubs!)

Today it's cooler so we'll see if that helps any! Thank you for checking in on my little fella!

[goldengirl88]

Terrry;
Hoping Spencer had another good nite. Do you think he would let you prop his little head up on something soft to see if that helps his breathing? Sometimes my Tipper lays with her head down and off the pillow when she is having breathing problems. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

I think the cooler weather helped! He did have a better night last night! This evening he is enjoying being outside....doesn't mind being on the ground. He wanders a few steps, then plops down for a spell. Once he catches his breath, he gets up for a little more exploring. Doesn't go very far, but he seems content!

[molly muffin]

Awww, that is great news. Even if he doesn't go far, he's making the effort, which means he feels well enough to try. That is good!

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
he is just too cute and still really trying. I hope you have the cooler weather for a while as it also is so much easier on my Tipper. She absolutely cannot do heat anymore. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Enjoying another pleasant evening outside with my sweet boy! Fed him rice cooked in fresh chicken broth with peas and carrots, and he is so content! Did have to break out the ice and ziploc bag, but we managed to make him compfy!! He is laying next to me right now, eyes open but relaxed! Such a sweet precious lil man! That's what I call him all the time!!! :)

[molly muffin]

Awww that is such a sweet picture. Enjoy the lovely evening. I can just picture him, tummy full, cooled down, with mom and dad, hanging with the pack. Is there anything better in a doggie life :)

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I just love that little mans life lately. He sounds so content. I am glad you have been blessed to enjoy these sweet moments with him. I hope it continues on forever just like you described it. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Patti & Sharlene....you too are so very sweet! Bless you both!

Spencer is having a bit more of a challenging day today. Hubs & I went shopping and bought a cowgirl cadillac.....(2012 Ford F250 Lariet Crew Cab) and when we got home, took lil man out to potty, he was having a really hard time on his feet. Couldn't stand to poop and front legs kept knuckling under on him. We have his pillow iced down, with fan blowing and he is sound asleep next to momma. Don't know if he had a seizure or got stressed with us being gone on a saturday! Really hate when he's like this.

Lol....hubs just came out with a fresh cooked chicken liver treat for sweet boy! Do you think he's loved at all?

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
What a deprived little man he is! On a cool pillow with a waiter bringing him chicken liver, such abusive parents!! Hope he is fine and maybe upset from being left home. If Tipper is sleeping on my bed, and I get up to go to the bathroom connected to the bedroom, she gets up out of her sleep and comes in and sits in front of me. Then we both go back and she is OK. She has to be in the same room or she gets upset. blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Lol....Patti, he has us we trained! When he wants food, he will bark and if we ask him what he wants....he licks his lips! I can tell if he's hungry, thirsty, hot, wants to go out or go to bed!!!

Yes I am bilingual...i understand Chi!

[Spencersmom]

Uploaded a couple more pics from tonight. One is Spencer enjoying a good face rub...the other is just sitting next to momma with dad close by!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
He is so cute with those big eyes. He has you two right where he wants you!. Hope he is having a good weekend now that you are home with him. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Oh love the pictures, he is very cute. He could have been stressed from being at home alone. Remember he not only got sick but lost Lexi too, so his world changed and you are his stability, his pack. They get emotional issues just like people do and go through grieving periods.

I Know Spencer is loved bunches and treated like the king he is. Cowgirl Cadillac, that is funny.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

2:44am.....Grand Mal seizure. Not a good way to start the week:(

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I am so sorry for Spencer. That poor little boy. just don't know what to say, but is he able to have his meds increased? Blessings
Patti

[Harley PoMMom]

Oh Terry, I am so sorry to hear this and am hoping the week will get better.

Sending hugs, Lori

[molly muffin]

Yikes a Grand Mal!!! That's no good. :( Okay, tell him that is the limit for the month now.

How is he doing? These usually tend to just wipe him out? How are you and the hubby?

Sending you great big hugs!
and an ear rub for Spencer
sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Patti, Sharlene and Lori...he is pretty wiped out today! Alert for food, but zero energy. Had a hard time walking thru the grass in the back yard. In the house, he plops down alot. We put a towel and flat bedding in front of his crate because he is having a hard time getting into it. When we come home, he's either laying in front of his crate or on the rug close to the back door. He still loves food, so there is still some pleasure to provide! As long as we can give him that, and as long as he can still enjoy.....we will spoil him all that is possible!

[Spencersmom]

By the way, I wish there was a "like" button I could click for your comments!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
God bless that little man of yours, get that baby a steak! Hope no more seizures
ever! Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Might mention that he is having issues with continence.....bladder and bowel! Last night, he pooped all over me...lol....that was a sight! I'm trying to clean stinky poop off my chair, arm, clothes, then the smell hits!!! I desperately grab a bath towel to catch my dinner as I'm heaving and hurling!! He just lays on the floor with his little "i sowwy" look! Tonight he peed and fell into it, getting his fat cushings belly soaked! What a time he is giving me! Can't do anything but love him and tell him it's ok! He just oooooozes sweetness! I really thing it drips from his pores!

[molly muffin]

Oh poor little Spencer. Well, he is a sweetheart, you can see it in his pictures.
Pooping on you, might mean he is having a gastro upset. Any time molly has ever pooped on me, she has ended up needing an atibiotic for gastro bacteria. I swear I don't know where she picks this stuff up from but it's almost guaranteed.
In the mean time try some florifora probiotic on his food.

Need to get that under control as it can really dehydrate him and cause him problems.

Might need a bucket for you near by too till this is sorted out. Just get something that matches the decor. :)

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Haha...Sharlene! Deco bucket might be a good thing!

His poop wasn't loose and has been normal all along. Gotta say, he has good poop....long as it's not on me!!!! I've noticed even times when he is just walking here recently poop will just come out as he's walking...no squatting....just walk and drop nuggets or logs! Almost like it starts coming out unexpectedly.

Lol...last time I puked over poop was changing my 2 yr old grand daughter's dirty diaper first thing in the morning after she'd had LOTS of guacamole the night before! OMG!!!! That was soooo gross!

[goldengirl88]

You two are so funny, deco buckets and guacamole???

[molly muffin]

I'm kind of thinking the whole guacamole thing might have taken care of needing a "deco" bucket. Think that might have been colorful all on it's own.
Oh man, I feel a bit ick just thinking about it.

It's so funny, my hubby, dear man that he is cannot clean up dog poop. It is totally beyond him and he starts heaving at the first go. I admit to wondering if he hasn't just found an excellent way to get me to clean it up instead. hahahaha

Well, that's very good that it isn't diarrhea, because easier to clean up the formed stuff than the runny stuff.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin (sending wipes your way!)

[Spencersmom]

Ugh.....two seizures last night! First at 10:30, VERY early for him to have one! We gave him 1/2 valium, then when due.....his seizure meds, and yet he still had another one at 12:30!!! :(:(:(. Called the emergency hospital, and the said to give him the other 1/2 of the valium. The rest of the night, he slept with times of difficulty. Kept raising up gasping.

This morning, he is having a really, really hard time walking, probably from all the meds! Poor thing, he literally collapses with all four legs splayed out around him where he can't get up. His expression looks so desperate! Just makes me want to cry!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
It truly pains me to hear this. I wish there was something I could say or do to help the situation. I am praying for a miracle for him and for Daisy Mae. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

I have a call into his vet. Waiting to discuss his latest developments and all of my recent concerns.

For the first time last night, hubs commented that he may be getting close to his time where we can no longer support him. He has always been one so optimistic! Do I even consider we may be at that crossroad? Am I giving up on him too soon? I feel just terrible right now!

[labblab]

Oh Terry, my heart absolutely goes out to you. But after reading about Spencer's seizures last night, I don't think you are giving up on Spencer at all by seriously evaluating his quality of life right now. By doing this, you are doing what is best for Spencer out of your love for him, and out of the joy that you all once shared but which may now be slipping out of reach.

One of our other dear members, Saskia, has used a phrase that has always touched my heart when discussions like this must be made. She speaks of a "dog-worthy" life, and judging whether there are enough good abilities and experiences left that allow us to think that our furbabies are enjoying life more than they are suffering. With Spencer, it does sound as though the balance may have shifted. It is something that I think you are right to talk over with your husband and your vet. No matter what you decide, we will never judge you harshly in any way, because we know that your decision will be made out of your love for Spencer.

Sending many hugs of support to you all,
Marianne

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I am so sorry hubby is thinking this, and you think you are giving up on him. He has had the most wonderful life with you both and it becomes a quality of life issue as horrible as it sounds it all comes down to that. If you feel he is still enjoying his life then go with that, if not then decisions have to be made on how to proceed. Maybe and hopefully when you talk with the vet there is something that can be done. Just hold on until you talk to the vet, and think positive. I am praying for you all I know what this is like I have been there before. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Terry, sending you big hugs. I too wish that I could make this better for you and your hubby and Spencer.
All I can think is that the macro is putting pressure and that the swelling either isn't going down or the tumor has grown. I really don't know and am just guessing. What does your vet say?
What do you think? Maybe you'll have to have a chat with your husband and come to some sort of definition of when you think it is all too much for Spencer.
It is never easy to even consider that kind of option, but it is something that we all have to be prepared for at some point. Maybe that time isn't yet, only you guys really know how he is doing.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Robert]

So sorry you and hubby and spencer are going through this. When the time comes you will know...you may second guess but you will. One of mine tam she stopped eating other than delicacies was breathing quick was unsteady but even with all that the real reason I knew was the Saturday at the vet the vet was telling me her heart melds were working but tam gave me a look and I just felt sick- it was a I've had enough look she the went downhill and five days later let her go.

[Spencersmom]

Well, his Vet is very optiistic! She felt clinically he was in better shape than expected on physical exam. They drew blood which will be sent to Ann Arbor to check his Kepra levels to see if he is still at a theraputic level. While I was there, his Neurologist also called her to discuss everything that is going on. We will talk further regarding seizures and meds once results are back. For now, continue to dose as we have and address seizures if/when they happen with valium.

I was given some helpful therapy ideas for addressing his separation anxiety. I also got some pheromones in a difuser, called D.A.P. which we are to plug in where he is staying that by design is supposed to provide soothing hormones such as what a mother dog secretes in her milk. We are hoping this will help and with other ideas to provide distractions, will eliminate the need for any additional meds, which he doesn't need!

She doesn't feel like he is at the critical point right now, and that we can work with him, depending on test results. We are also to increase his vegetable intake to address his ever growing belly and weight gain. She said he can have peas, carrots, canned pumpkin (not pie filling) & zuccini added to his chicken and rice in increasing portions to give him a feeling of fullness without adding so many calories as the chicken and rice.

They are very concerned about our upcoming vacation this summer and the toll on him, so we are trying to get a game plan together now to work towards that end so he will be able to handle traveling and being alone. I pray for success in our efforts!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I cannot tell you how relieved I am to read this post. I am happy that the vet said he us still able to be worked with. I hope the tests will provide you with answers for developing a game plan to help him. Just one caution, go easy on the zucchini cause Tipper gained weight on it!!! Are you taking Spencer with you on vacation? You can also get dap in a collar for traveling. They have them on Amazon and I got one for Tipper, but she is allergic to the material it is made out of!! When do they think the testing results will be in? Gotta keep that little man happy!! Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

He's a little fighter! This morning he layed in the kitchen and would bark every 5 minutes or so, until I got up! When I came into view, he looked at me like..."lazy bones, don't you know it's time you got up!":p

[goldengirl88]

You show them who's boss in that house Spencer, and order up a nice little steak!!

[Spencersmom]

Lol, Patti....Spencer knows he's quite the boss at home! That's why I fret so, when he is having a bad day! He has so much attitude when he feels good!

When he was younger and I tried to put him on his back to show my dominance....little stinker would turn his head! If I brought it back, to force him into looking at me, he would close his eyes and growl under his breath! He was NOT about to give in!!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
That is so cute, I bet he was a spunky one when he was a baby! Yikes Tipper tried to remove my hand the other nite when I tried to wipe her butt with a baby wipe as she messed on her fur when she had the runs. She was not in the mood for a butt wipe. I would just like to know what gets these dods so defensive about a butt wipe?? Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Hahaha....maybe those wipes were just a little too cold for her sensitive hiney! Spencer freaks out too if you touch his bum when he's not expecting it!

[molly muffin]

That Spencer sure is a real character. I just love all these big personalities.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Robert]

That can be a sensitive area....tommy was the most gentle dog ever put on earth....except when his butt needed cleaning... There would be snarling and trying to escape.

I even miss that!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I don't know if the wipes were cold or it was attitude as Tipper's personality is bigger than life. She can get attitude with you in the blink of an eye, and you best not mess with her when you see that look. I know it all too well. These little dogs are all tough! Tipper will take on anything any size, she is quite the Alpha female. Hoep Spencer has a good nite. Blessings
patti

[molly muffin]

Hope you and Spencer are having some mal free days and Nights.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
Hope last nite was good for the little man. Is your weather cooler? We are having cooler weather and maybe that will make him feel better as Tipper loves the cool weather. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Patti & Sharlene, we've had a couple of good days...and nights! Weather is cooler, and Spencer is feeling a bit spunkier! Can't wait to get off work and go home and hold my lil man!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I think this cooler weather agrees with Spencer. Do you think if her slept on that cooling pad you make for him it would help prevent the seizures keeping his temp down?? I would be curious to know what his temp is when these happen. I have one of those thermometers you can point at Tipper forehead or in her ear to get her temp. Hope you all have a good weekend. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Another rough night for lil man! Seizure hit this morning at 1:35 am! The rest of the night he didn't sleep well, kept raising all the way up gasping. Still very restless.

Today he acts like he is starving! He even tried to get in the garbage, trying to get past the gate closing off the stairs to the back door landing. This is the second time he's tried to get the garbage! He used to weigh 6 lbs.....now he's up to 11 1/2 lbs....yet he acts like he's not being fed enough. It's almost like he doesn't realize he's full.:confused:

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I am so sorry to hear Spencer continues to have seizures. About the eating, Tipper could eat a 20 lb turkey I swear if you cooked one and let her go to it!! I wonder what the mechanism is that causes the ravenous appetite?? Hoping you both have a better not tonite, as I know this is hard to watch your baby go thru these episodes. Blessings
Patti

[Harley PoMMom]

I am so sorry to hear that Spencer is still having seizure episodes and am praying that this will get better.

As far as his hunger, you can give him green beans, and/or carrots as fillers.

Hugs, Lori

[molly muffin]

I don't understand the why's of them always being hungry, I know they just don't think they are full, even when they are and will over eat because their bodies aren't telling them anything different.

I am so sorry that he is having these seizures again. :( They really do seem to just wear him him and effect his breathing too when they happen. Poor little guy. He is so happy and content other than when these seizures occur.

sending you love and hugs of support to you and your hubby and precious Spencer.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

4:07 am.....grande mal seizure! Hope I hear something from the test results, but don't know what we'll do if he is at thereputic levels!

So much for such a little one to endure in just a matter of months!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I know this is so disturbing for you. I wish I could change your situation. I hope the results come soon as you need to know what to do here. I am thinking and praying for you both,
Patti

[Spencersmom]

You are so right that it is frustrating! He was doing so well there for a month, and now starting to have the seizures again! Also, even tho we are still giving him Vetoryl every morning, I just don't see any improvement in his Cushings at all! Makes me wonder if all of this is because of advancement in his brain lesions!

In every other respect, he seems to be holding steady, as much as can be expected! He's still very vocal about his food, and follows me everywhere I go. He loves having his face and eyes rubbed...especially his left side! He perks up and "talks" if we ask him if he wants to go for a ride!

Hoping we can keep him comfortable and happy as long as possible!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I can't remember did you have a scan on his brain? Do you think the dosage of Vetoryl he is on is enough to control him? Maybe he needs a small dose at nite too? How much is he on now? Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Patti, his neurologist gave us the option for an MRI, but that is beyond our means. Other tests he performed lead him to believe there was a macro tumor on the pituitary as well as secondary lesion. He is reluctant to increase the vetoryl, and we tried giving Spencer Omeprazole for brain swelling, but that gave him terrible diarrhea! So we're just trying to keep seizures under as much control as possible! I'm so afraid we are running out of time!

It's hard to believe that this has been going on for just 3 months! Seems like it's been a lifetime!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
Oh now I remember, it is a shame the MRIs are so expensive. Have you heard any word on his test? I hope he is able to have a dose increase and it helps. It is hard to know what to do as every time you try something it can cause other issues like the diarrhea you said he got. Is there another drug that will reduce the swelling you could maybe try that would not give him the diarrhea?? You could ask a pharmacist. I am praying for you both, I wish your situation were better, I know this has to be very hard indeed. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Oh Terry, :( I'm sorry that he had another grand mal seizure. :( I too hope his dosage can be corrected, or that there is something else that they can try.
How frustrating and heart breaking at the same time.

Just sending you great big hugs!
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I have to admit to being cowardly to look at your thread this morning. I so want these seizures to stop for you little man. He has had such a bumpy road lately he needs some feeling well time. Hope he has a good day. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Ok.....so I waited to post until I had something to report!

Two nights with no seizures....yay for those blessings!

Spoke with his vet this morning and the recommendation was to increase the Keppra by 25% in order to get him to a fully theraputic level, as his current dosage is still a little low. Praying this increase provides the much required relief he so desperately needs!

Of course, he's not going to be very happy about having to take even more of that nasty stuff!! (Kinda tastes like strong cough syrup).

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I am glad I sure hope this increase does the trick for that little man. We have fingers and paws crossed. Blessings
Patti

[goldengirl88]

Terry;
Just checking in on the little man. I am hoping since he was not at the full therapeutic level that this will stop what is currently happening with the seizures. Fingers crossed that this works for him. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Thank you, Patti! We too are keeping our fingers crossed! He was a bit restless last night!

This weekend we are going to try some separation excersises! Keep fingers crossed he does well!

[goldengirl88]

will do. I hope he is fine over the weekend.

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
Hoping that everything goes well for the weekend. WE are to get a cold front coming in and Tipper will love that, hope you get it and it helps Spencer. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Yes, we are cooling down this weekend as well! I know my lil man will enjoy it!

I'm working from home today, so he is loving being able to spend the day laying next to me! It's a great friday!:D

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
Are you giving him the higher dosage now? Notice any difference in him if you are? Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Patti, yes he is taking the higher dose now. Don't really notice a change....other than he hasn't had seizures! Will see if this holds them back. Time will tell! Keeping fingers crossed real tight!

[molly muffin]

Good luck with the separation exercises this weekend.
Great to hear no more seizures. Long may the peace last. :) :)

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Hoping to see no seizures on here today!!!

[Spencersmom]

Well.....i'm going out on a limb to say we are having a successful weekend!

Spencer is still seizure free, and today's separation test went well. Could it be the pheromones are working? I put out a new bong with peanut butter and another tempting chew bone, which he ignored both, but when we got back he was calmly waiting by the door. No visible signs of distress!

We left him for a short while, but he didn't start barking as soon as we closed the door nor did he bark when he heard us arrive!

Hopefully optimistic!:)

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I am so happy he did so well on the training. Lets pray it continues as it sounds like he is in a good place this weekend. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

That sounds very productive! So glad Spencer did well with the exercises, and remains seizure free. That's a good day!

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
Hoping for another seizure free nite to be posted! I hope this cooler weather is helping him too. Tipper loves this cooler weather. Hope you enjoy a good fathers day with hubby. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

:( another seizure at 1:53 am!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
Oh gheez that is awful. I was hopefully this new dose would stop them. Could it be he hasn't been on this dose long enough? I know Song has problems with Ginger for a while, and I think she finally got it regulated, but I think she uses more than one drug. Maybe you could read a little on her thread? Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Wow, Patti.....she has her hands beyond full with Ginger! So heartbreaking to read of her daily struggles!

We're going to see if this morning's seizure is a one shot deal, and if not, will be calling his neurologist again! We leave in less than two weeks, and I'm just dreading this trip!

We were camping this past weekend, so it makes me wonder if that has anything to do with him seizing!:confused::confused::confused:

[goldengirl88]

I don't know that much about seizure activity, just some, but that could be a possibility and I would be asking the neurologist. Were you able to get the meds Song uses on Ginger so you could ask about them. I believe her first ones did not do the trick and she changed them up, you may have to go to another medicine as some work better than others for some of the dogs. Blessings
Patti

[My sweet Ginger]

Sigh. It would've been perfect as far as controlling Ginger's seizures (focal) if Ginger didn't start bleeding from her behind so we had to stop the combo and her symptom was getting much worse on Zoni alone and we couldn't increase the dosage any higher. Aside from her worsening seizures she also stopped eating altogether soon after the start of the combo which still hasn't resolved yet. Maybe Spencer will do better like Buffy.
For Ginger increasing prednisone was the only option at this point and I noticed difference in her seizures and appetite on the forth day. it's been a little over 2 wks since the increase and both seizures and appetite have clearly improved. On the other hand her drinking and peeing are worse now which were expected and who knows what else will pop up? Saw some blood mixed in her urine the other day and both her IMS and neurologist suspect an UTI. She now has to take one more pill as if 5 different meds twice daily were not enough. It's like chasing after a rainbow. Exasperating.

I hope Spencer will have an easier time controlling seizures soon and won't have to take as many pills. My heart goes out to you Terry because I know how hard it is to watch your pup suffering through these awful and cruel symptoms. Hugs, Song.

[Spencersmom]

Song....you have been so devoted and hard working to keep Ginger fighting for each new day! As I read your thread, I could feel your frustration! It's so difficult, because you know you are doing everything you can and you hope they realize your efforts are for them!

Sometimes when Spencer looks at me, my heart just breaks because he looks so tired! He struggles so to walk, and I see his steady decline!

[molly muffin]

Oh no, I'm sorry Spencer had another seizure. :( The camping might be over exciting for him? Is that a possibility? I don't really know. Most of what I've learned as been from others experience here on the forum.

It might be that he needs some other combo though.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I am hoping you got some good information from Song. She has really been thru the mill with her baby Ginger. I just thought maybe a change in meds if nothing else helps, but as Ginger said in the long run it brought other problems. Hoping Spencer had a good nite. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Life always seems to throw you a curve when you least expect it! Yesterday my Uncle passed suddenly and unexpectedly, so I will have to leave my sweet boy in the care of hubs to fly home to be with family.

I realize most ppl don't live in the south or listen to country music, but my Uncle was a local legend! If interested, look up River Road Boys online and read about Bill Dessens!!!

I am sad beyond words, as we had a special bond! He used to book me on local gigs with him....I would sing songs by Patsy Cline, Anne Murray and many others. Music was at the core of our family, and that core just lost a huge section!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
So sorry to hear this sad news. Your uncle will live on thru you and your singing. I don't live in the south, but I loved country music my whole life. Patsy Cline is one of my favorites, just love her songs. Take care and tell hubby to keep that little man happy. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Oh I am so sorry Terry! I am sure that hubs and Spencer will do okay. They'll have each other. Addy always left a page of detailed instructions for her hubby when she was away from him and Zoe. He always survived it just fine. Yours will too.

Hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Hubby is worried, knowing how attached Spencer has become to me. Just this evening, he commented again his concerns that my absence may cause stress because Spencer just waits and looks for me to come home. He knows the routine, and this weekend is the first time he will have to deal with me gone and no Lexi to help see him thru.

From friday thru tuesday.....just gonna be the two boys together! Hubs is feeling the pressure big time! Tonight, he even commented...what if something happened to me while you're gone...what about Spencer!!!! It's one thing to share the load of this level of care, but to put it all on one's shoulder alone is tough!

I feel so guilty now for going! I wish I hadn't made reservations!

[molly muffin]

Awww, big hugs. I know your hubby is worried about Spencer. He obviously adores him and I am sure Spencer knows that. Just tell him to give Spencer tons of extra attention during this time together and I'm sure they will both be fine. It's just a couple days luckily.

I would make a plan for him and write it all out. Friday do this and that and this and this time, include cuddle time, watching tv time, maybe spending some time outside together. When he should cook and/or feed him, that sort of thing. He doesn't have to Stick to it, but I bet it will make hubby feel a bit better to be structured rather than just free winging it.
A plan in every situation is a good thing and hubbys and doggies both need it. You my dear are the captain of the ship. Just tell them how to keep the engine running and steering straight.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[jxeno13]

Terry so sorry to hear about your Uncle. I'm sure Spencer will do OK with the hubby and try not to worry. I did read about your Uncle and he was quite talented. You must be too, for that matter. Again, I'm so sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family...and Spencer and his Daddy while they wait your return.

[Spencersmom]

Jo Ann, Sharlene & Patti....thank you for being so positive! Bruce is actually very good at Spencer's schedule! He has been right along side me taking care of our lil man! Having to wing it all on his own is going to be tough! He takes on so much of the every day responsibilities as it is, this is just a big one to add to the list!

Just keep my sweet hubs in your prayers!

Also, thank you for taking time to read up on my Uncle! I really feel a great loss...he was an amazing man!

[molly muffin]

Yes. I meant to mention that too about your uncle. What a huge loss and so talented.
Keeping your family in our thoughts and prayers.
I know hubby will do fine. Doesn't calm the nerves though. Lol.

Hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
Hubby was questioning what would happen to Spencer if something happened to him. He has to ask also if something happened to you what would happen to Spencer. It is a good thing he is having to do this in the event of an emergency or you would fall ill he has to be able to do what you do with Spencer. You can't put all this on one person like you said. It will be alright, just make sure he can be in touch with you. Do you have a cell phone that allows you to see the other person and talk? I use mine when I am leaving Tipper with the sitter so I can actually see her when I am away. Maybe you could talk to Spencer on it and it would comfort him? Hope you get thru your Uncles funeral and get home safely. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

I will be off line for a while... Please keep hubs & Spencer in your thoughts!

I don't comment on other's posts just cause I don't think I have enough experience with all that our babies are dealing with to offer advice....but I do read everything.

I hope and pray that all our sweet babes hold their own no matter what they are going thru and each day is a happy day for them and for us too!

[molly muffin]

Have a good trip. Deep breaths.
Everything will be fine.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I know you are offline, but just know I am thinking of you and send you strength and praying for your hubby and Spencer. It will all be ok, and your boy will be thrilled to see you when you get back. Hope daddy does not spoil him too much and he turns into a daddy's boy!! Safe journey friend and stay calm. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Thought I'd post an update while I can! Hubs & Spencer are doing great! Lol....lil man is following his Daddy everywhere, he's alert and having no issues.....other than still looking for momma to come home! Just a few more days & his wish will come true!

[goldengirl88]

Terry;
That's your little man he wants his mamma!! Glad all is going well. Be safe. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Great to hear that everything is going well. I'm sure he does miss you but how cute him following your hubby around. :)

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Well, I must have put a jinx on Spencer! He had a mild seizure this morning around 1:30, and this afternoon when hubs came home from work, Spencer was unable to stand or walk. Hubs said he had a bad feeling today, felt like something would happen.

I arrived home a little after 8:00pm & up till Bruce came to pick me up from the airport, Spencer still had not been able to stand and pee. When we got home I was able to support him enough for him to finally potty, but he is very weak!!! Got him to walk a little in the house but he didn't go far and he was so wobbly! His muscles just tremmored from the exertion! At least he was able to get to his water bowl to drink.

We will see how he does tonight, hoping tomorrow he is stronger. Guess my absence finally got to him, combined with hubby going to work yesterday & today. We think that was just too much for him!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
So sorry to hear this. Hoping tomorrow he is better. Maybe just the stress of having hubs instead of you? Praying for that little man tonite for sure. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Spencer was better yesterday, and got to spend the day today with hubs, who stayed home from work. After tomorrow, I will be off for July shutdown at work until July 9th! Lil man is going to be really spoiled during this time!

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
So happy to hear he is better. That little man will be so spoiled, you may not be able to go back to work!! Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Lol....Patti, he sure won't be ready for me to leave him after all the time I will be off! We are certainly learning what limits he has, and he has become quite vocal about his desires. At this point...we are just going to focus on spoiling him like crazy! Whatever he wants....we will do our best to provide!!!

Just hope we can keep his stress level at a minimum, since we know he suffers adverse consequinces if he stresses and as a result, he has a cortisol dump!

[Spencersmom]

Seizure at 3:07 am.

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
Oh darn it!! Do you think the excitement of you coming home got him stirred up? I am praying that these seizures go a way once and for all. This has to be gut wrenching to watch this time and time again. I feel so bad for poor Spencer. Blessings
Patti

[goldengirl88]

Just checking in on the little man. Hope things have stopped with the seizure activity. Hoping he has a quiet spoiled Sunday. Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Posted a pic of my lil man chilaxing on his road trip! He's loving that he gets to ride on my lap, and sleep on a comfy pillow!

He had two good nights too! Hoping he continues to do well once we reach our destination!

[Harley PoMMom]

AWWW, he is so adorable!!! Two good nights, YAAA!!!! Will be praying that pattern stays.

Hugs, Lori

[Iraklis]

Just saw the pics. Spencer (and Lexi) are adorable!
Hope all continues to go well for you! :)

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
Hoping you two had another good nite? How do the dogs like the traveling around, do they mind it or like it? Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

I hope no more seizures and that Spencer too is enjoying the road trip.
Anything different just really seems to set him off from the sounds of it.

Love the pictures, he is sure a little cutie.

Safe travels!

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
How is the little man managing? I don't even want to bring that s word up!
Blessings
Patti

[Spencersmom]

Hello everyone! Just thought I'd give y'all an update on lil man. We've been able to somewhat manage the heat exposure and yesterday bought a neat cooling pad at Academy! No refrigeration required! It has some kind of cooling gel inside that when cooled down to room temp feels like an ice pack! It's called O2COOL, and is fantastic! When sitting outside, I can lay Spencer down on it and he is so comfy he will fall asleep!

He did have a seizure yesterday morning at 12:38am, so once back home I will be calling his neurologist as he seems to be having them about once a week again. :(. Yesterday and last night he was having his gasping spells too.

On a positive note, he's been getting more excersize here at the camp ground, walking around a little more than he normally does with all the new smells to check out and activity to watch!

Thank you for thinking of us! I'll report back again in a day or two!

[Spencersmom]

Patti, Spencer loves to travel!!! He knows that means additional lap time with momma! When Lexi was alive, she knew when we were packing....how, I don't know because the last two years of her life she was completely blind.....but she knew and would get very animated and excited!

One of their favorite questions was always...." You wanna go bye bye?"

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
make sure that little man gets some entertainment and a cool drink when laying on his pad! Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Awww, that is so cute that Lexi would know and Spencer loves his lap time.

grrrr on those seizures though.

hugs
sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I am hoping the next time you post you are going to say there were no more seizures. I wish this could stop for both your sakes. have a nice time camping. What state are you camping in? Hope the weather is good and not too hot for Spencer. Blessings
Patti

[goldengirl88]

Terry:
I am probably leaving the forum. I care about you and Spencer so please keep ion touch with me.
Patti
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[flynnandian]

hi patti, this is an open/public forum, so i don't know if you want your personal email adress on this topic where everyone can see it.

[Spencersmom]

Oh, I'm so sad to read Patti's post!!! :eek::(

Was looking forward to sharing that Spencer has handled the remainder of our trip so far just fine!! We are on our way home now!

I hope to hear from my friend again!:o

[molly muffin]

That is great news! I'm so glad Spencer enjoyed the trip and you too of course. hahaha We'll be looking forward to your next check in, that everything is going fine still. (see we live on optimism ;) )

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Unfortunately at about 2:20 this morning Spencer had a pretty bad grande mal seizure!!! His little body was really contorted this time which he hasn't done in the past. Normally he would be laying on his side during the seizure, but this morning his top half of his body was twisted on his back with his front legs thrust up in the air! His cry was different too, and he peed all over!

Planning on calling his Dr once I get sorta caught up at work.

:(:(:(

[molly muffin]

Oh No!! That does not sound good, like he was in pain perhaps? :( I am so sorry to hear that this one was so much worse.

Are you home with him now?

Sending big hugs!
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Sharlene, yes we got home yesterday afternoon. I called his neurologist to report his continuation of seizures in spite of the med increase and to also report this change. Waiting to hear back, and will let you know what he says.

[labblab]

Terry, I'm so sorry to hear about this, too! I'll be anxiously awaiting your news...:o

Marianne

[molly muffin]

Checking in.. Have you heard back from the vet yet?

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Harley PoMMom]

I am so sorry to hear that Spencer had a seizure and am waiting anxiously with the others.

Love and hugs, Lori

[doxiesrock912]

Terry, please check your private mail box. :)

[Spencersmom]

Hi All......still waiting to hear from the neurologist. I think he may be on vacation. If I don't hear from him by noonish today, I'll give his regular vet a call.

Valerie, thank you for the head's up on my private msg's. I normally access this forum from my mobile device, so I wasn't aware I had anything in my inbox.

Since wednesday's seizure, Spencer has been doing fine. He now has decided he wants his dinner promptly as soon as I get home from work. He will bark at me constantly until I heat up his chicken and rice with peas, carrots and green beans....sprinkled with a tiny bit of shredded cheese cause he loves it that way. He will lick his little bowl clean and then is ready to lay next to me and fall asleep!! hahaha...has he got me trained or what!!!!:D:D:D

[My sweet Ginger]

Hi Terry,
I don't know if I've mentioned this before but how about combining Zoni and Keppra as an option when you discuss Spencer's condition with his neurologist. Although Ginger developed colitis from it the effect was amazing. It may just work for Spencer. It's been working perfect for Buffy for a few years. You just have to come up with the right ratio for him.
Are his seizures pretty much under control most of the time other than these occasional grande mal seizures? Ginger has constant focal seizures ( head and neck twitches ) and the whole body tremors. These days we are able to keep them under control ( not 100% but acceptable ) with the increased prednisone and Zoni together which I can't be happy about but her quality of life rules so there it goes. I hope Spencer will have many seizure free days enjoying his food and his mama.:)

[Spencersmom]

Do you know if Zoni would have any bad effects on the liver? Spencer's liver is enlarged and his enzymes are elevated, so we have to be careful with what he is prescribed. On xray, you can see his liver distended down beyond his ribs.

[molly muffin]

I am thrilled that he hasn't had any more seizures. I hope the neurologists gets back to you soon. Will his office tell you if he is on vacation?

Welcome to the club! Most of us are well trained by our furbabies. :) :)

I would check with the neurologist about liver side effects for any of the medications.

I think I saw somewhere that liver weight can be an issue with Zonisamide, but I'd want to have that confirmed as I don't know if that is recent or if that is a concern from when it first came out. Ask the neurologist if there are any other medications that can be combined that would be safe for Spencer. Often with seizure medication, one thing treats one receptor and another treats a different receptor, which is why a few dogs end up on a combo of medications for seizures. Just something to be away of and discuss options with your vet about.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[flynnandian]

in my country they do a combination of phenobarbital and [old fashioned] kaliumbromide.
for some epileptic dogs it does wonders.
i don't know if they do this in the usa too?
[i used to have a dog with epilepsy, so i know something about it.]

[molly muffin]

How is Spencer doing? Any more seizures? Hope not.
Thinking of you
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

spencer hasn't had a seizure since last reported.....fingers and toes crossed this continues! We are trying to keep him on a calm daily routine, and let me say he loves his cool pad! He has been pretty stable the past 1 1/2 weeks.....has us pretty well trained to meet his needs on his timing!! Otherwise we get a good barking at! Lol

In the mornings when he sees me get the bottle of seizure meds out....he tries his best to high-tail it into his crate...he so HATES that stuff! He gets the most forlorn look on his little face, we can't help but get tickled at him! Oh if only he could talk....I bet he'd tell us plenty!

[molly muffin]

That is so great Terry. I'm glad to hear that Spencer has been seizure free. Did the vet up his seizure meds or anything after that last scary one?

Oh I am sure Spencer would have a lot to say if he could talk. hahahaha Maybe we are better off some times that they can't. hahahaha

Great to hear from you,
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Sharlene....no changes in meds.....could be the stress from travelling had something to do with the seizures.....on a wait & see hold right now. He's been holding steady since the last spell, which I'm glad of, so I'm staying positive he will continue!

[molly muffin]

hmm, that is true Terry. Anytime Spencer experiences stress, he has a seizure it seems, so I guess a good deal of his care is eliminating stress, or adjusting how he perceives things, maybe to try to get him to not be stressed over things.
I wonder if there is anything you can give him that would help in stressful situations. I'm thinking something like melatonin or something?
Maybe you could ask the vet about that.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Sharlene, we did discuss his stressors and because he has a really enlarged liver and his levels are very elevated, they are very reluctant to give him any meds unless he absolutely needs them!

I gave him a bath today, which I hope makes him feel better! He got so dirty in Louisiana and wiping him with a wet wash cloth just wasn't getting him clean! Keep fingers crossed that didn't upset him too much!

[molly muffin]

Terry,

Melatonin falls into more of the herbal realm of medicating and shouldn't have any harsh inpact on the liver.

Hopefully the bath makes him feel better. Little scamp managing to get all dirty. LOL

hugs
sharlene and molly muffin

[molly muffin]

I did just find something that says if they are epileptic then melatonin shouldn't be used. :(

Not sure if Spencer's are from tumor or other reason, but it might be worth asking the vet about.

Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Well, don't know if the bath is the reason.....but Spencer had a mild seizure at 1:41 am. It was brief and he rallied from it almost immediately!

Sharlene, we believe his seizures are brain tumor related!

[molly muffin]

Okay if his seizures are brain tumor related then the melatonine might work for him as an anti stress and no liver issues due to it. Definitely talk to your vet. I wouldn't do anything without their input, but it could be an option.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Shar.....what kind of dosage would i be considering? I take melatonin at times when i need a really good night's sleep. Interesting that i could give it to Spencer! Will definitely bring it up! What should I give him, he is super obese now at about 12 lbs......when his normal weight should be under 6 lbs.

[molly muffin]

It would be a very low dosage and only when you think stressful situations might occur. Your vet should have some idea on dosage and the nero specialist might have even more input.

Molly is on melatonin as a treatment option we are looking into and she gets daily 3mg in the morning and 3mg in the evening.

Remember, straight melatonin only, no time release, etc. And not till you talk to the vet! LOL I know, mother hen here.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Spencer got up to a trot!!! Yes......you read that correctly! Yesterday, hubs & I were enjoying the wonderful temps outside, when lil man decided it was time for a treat. So, being the well trained momma that I am, I got him a piece of homemade chicken jerky. Just to see what he would do, hubby took him out in the yard about 20 ft from me. When I showed my little chub nugget what I had.....he literally broke out into a full ahead TROT....as fast as his waddling legs could take him! Lol....he even tried to "jump" up on the patio!! That one inch was a doozey!!!

Yesterday was a really good day for him! :D

[molly muffin]

How wonderful!!!! I can just see little Spencer making a go at it to get that piece of jerky! It's so good to hear that he continues to have some rather super days. :)

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Well, we had a good weekend camping with friends! Posted a pic of lil man outside enjoying all the activity around us! He even got "bossy" with one of our fellow campers! We all laughed at how assertive he was with his demand for attention!

I think he's trying to get an ear infection tho! The inside of his left ear is really red and there's a good bit of junk. This is something he's seemed to become prone to this past couple of years.

[Spencersmom]

We do have ointment on hand for his ear. Is this common for cushpups? Never thought about any connection before, but makes me wonder now.

I thought before that he got ear infections from Lexi always grooming him...licking his face and ears like any good adoptive momma dog would do! But sadly, she is no longer with us so I know there is no link to excessive ear licking and any irritation!

[molly muffin]

Hi terry. Yes ear infection can be one of the side issues with Cushing's as it is an infection and any infection can be difficult to get rid of because of the effects on the immune system.

My Molly has had issues with ear infection the last 2 years.

Hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Sharlene, is there any way to prevent them?

[molly muffin]

Just keep the ears as clean as possible. Some members use Zymox.
I know Glynda has a good one, I'm drawing on a blank on the name at the moment though.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Seizure again this morning at 1:53am. :(

[molly muffin]

oh no, hope it wasn't a grand mal or as bad as last time. That was scary. :(

Hang in there Terry and hubby,
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Harley PoMMom]

Reoccurring ear infections can be a sign of a thyroid issue, also, thyroid dysfunction can cause seizures.

Hoping Spencer's ear infection is much better soon.

Hugs, Lori

[doxiesrock912]

Awwww, poor Spencer. That's scary!

[Spencersmom]

Not sure the cause of my boy's ear infection, but his thyroid was checked out at the beginning of the year when we were trying to figure out what was wrong. I know there are issues with him that are going to crop up, we will have to deal with them, but ultimately I hope that posting his story here will in some way help others searching for answers or direction! Questions that arrise may not apply to him, but could be something for others to consider and they certainly get me thinking and asking questions!! That's what it's all about, right?

Everyone on this forum is so amazingly concerned and helpful! For me, I read so many threads here but I don't comment because I just feel I am too new at this whole phase in Spencer's journey.

Just wanted to take a moment to reflect and appreciate all the wisdom, concern and genuine friendship that is here!

[molly muffin]

Well, things can change, it's been what 6 months since he was checked for thyroid? It could also be high cortisol.

Yes, that is one thing that we all have to remember when the times get tough, we are family, all in this together.

We are so happy that you and Spencer and your hubs are a part of our great big international home.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

12:14 am, another seizure.......second one this week! Thankfully it was mild and didn't last long!

[molly muffin]

Oh shoot Terry. Glad it didn't last too long at least. Is he doing okay otherwise?

Hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin

[Trish]

Hi Terry, I don't often post on your thread as have no experience with seizures so don't have any great ideas but wanted to pop in and send you some moral support!! :) I hope Spencer you and your family have a seizure free weekend, such a worry your little pup. x

[Spencersmom]

Thank you Trish and Sharlene for your concern for my lil man! Talked to the neurologist this afternoon and ...... Poor baby, we are going to increase his Kappra dosage yet again!!! He hates it so much, will try to hide his face when he sees us fill the syringe! They would like to have seizures down to once in two months, instead of every week or twice in a week since he seized this morning ..... Again! He is such a little fighter!!! I really did not think he would have been with us at this point, but he just continues to greet each new day waiting for his chicken, rice & veggies.....rides in our truck....time in my lap or sleeping next to me. This evening we took him for a ride and he just kept kissing my arm and hand....over and over....such a precious little soul!!!

[molly muffin]

Oh my gosh Terry that is so precious.

I think it is just amazing that spencer continues to beat the odds and in a really good inspiring way.

I hope he gets to have many more adventures I. His future.

Hugs
Sharlene. And Molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Keeping finger and toes crossed that the increase in meds will do the trick and control the seizures!

[My sweet Ginger]

Oh, poor Spencer trying to hide his head. Breaks my heart. I can easily picture him doing that. :(
Would you consider switching to tablets instead? That option might work better for everyone involved as long as Spencer's appetite is healthy. They come in 250mg tabs (a long oval shape and scored in the middle ). Ginger weighs 10 lbs more or less and her dosage was 125mg twice a day so total of 250mg daily. We had a hard time due to Ginger's extremely poor appetite so sometimes I had to use liquid form. If everything else fails, try wrapping the pills with cheese cake, better than ice cream. No melting involved.;) I'm a firm cheese cake believer now. I think Spencer weighs about the same as Ginger so I thought I'd suggest. Her neurologist didn't want to go any higher than 125mg x2 daily on Keppra.
I commend you for sticking with 3time dosing schedule for Spencer as I know how difficult it is. Kudos for you and lil Spencer.

[lulusmom]

Sharlene mentioned earlier that I had a good ear solution so I thought I'd drop in and give you some information on the product. The ear cleaner I have used for chronic ear infections is Liquid Health K-9 Ear Solutions. You can order from Amazon but I get mine cheaper at Vita Cost. A groomer turned me onto the product a few years ago and it's the only thing I use for ear infections in my own dogs as well as my rescues/fosters. It is amazing stuff.

http://www.vitacost.com/liquid-health-k-9-ear-solutions

I hope this helps.

Glynda

[Budsters Mom]

Glynda is not kidding when it comes to the ear solution. Rosie hasn't had a bit of trouble with her ears since I started using it. I ordered mine from vita cost also, but my friend found it locally at cahoots.

[Trish]

Awwwww hope the new dose change does good, I find stealth is best approach even when I get an injection to give Flynn. I don't show him the pills or any preparations, just make a fuss when I give him the little food ball and down it goes. The little darlings get suspicious though don't though. Fingers and paws crossed the new dose does the trick! x:)

[Spencersmom]

Thanks big time for letting me know about the ear cleaner! I noticed Vita Cost is out of stock right now, does this happen often? The price is great and looks like there's a lot in a bottle (12 oz), so it should last a while!

To address Spencer's Keppra, they have him on the liquid because it has to compounded down for him. With the dosage increase i'll discuss with his Dr if pill form is an option at this point! He is VERY food motivated, so getting pills down him is super easy!

Your input is most helpful and very, very appreciated!

[Spencersmom]

Boy, I tell you what.....I might be able to navigate thru most programs, lol....but posting pics here stumps me! I apologize for the duplications and the pics posting sideways!!!

[molly muffin]

Eh it happens. :-). I was able to see them just fine. Cutie and his castle. Hahaha

Hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Well darn it to pieces!! Upped Spencer's Keppra yet again and he still had another seizure this morning at 12:50am. This makes 3 seizures within a week! Thank goodness they are mild, and not the full blown grande mal ones.....but the neurologist wants him to have spells more like one every two months at worst!

They are reluctant to give him anything else, but I feel we are regressing with keeping them at bay!

[labblab]

Terry, I am just so sorry to hear about these recurring seizures. If you are like me, it takes such a toll once you're in that mode of being constantly vigilant and worrying when the next one is going to come. :( :(

We have been so lucky that it has been a long time now since Peg had her last seizure. But even still, any time I awaken and hear her shuffling around during the night my first thought is "Oh no, oh no, oh no...please let it not be that again!!!" :o :o

I agree, though, thank goodness that at least spencer's have been less severe. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that you guys will be able to arrive at the perfect dose for your sweet little boy.

Marianne

[molly muffin]

Well dang it. That is not how we want things to go. Did the vet think it could take awhile for the increased dosage to work?

I do hope that at the very least there aren't any grand mal's. Those no one needs.

Hang in there!
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Boy am I beating myself up right now!!! I feel llike the most irresponsible Mom ever, and there is just no excuse in my books....even hubs was going on about how he couldn't believe what I failed to do!! I left for work this morning with Spencer's syringe full of his seizure meds.....and I didn't give it to him!!!! I can't believe I was so careless, and now he will most likely suffer tonight as a result !

This is just not cool at all!!!

[molly muffin]

Oh Terry!! These things happen, we don't Want them to, and we certainly don't plan to do them, but they happen. Don't beat yourself up too much. Just get back on track and go from there . I know that is easy to say but we've all been in that position and the meds and keeping it all straight, it can be quite a complicated mission and then fit that in with the rest of life going on around you and hello, you are only human. Hopefully this isn't going to be too bad of a night and there won't be any ill effects, we'll just cross our fingers and move forward

BIG HUGS
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Sharlene....thank you for your warm encouragement! Spencer is so on the fence where his seizures go, it takes so little to send him over the edge! I know I have another sleepless night ahead for me....but that is of no significance to what he must feel after he's had one of his spells.....especially if it's major! I just feel so bad that I've put
him at risk!!! I've tried sooooo hard to be so very diligent about his care! Speaking of.....i need to get some rice and veggies cooking for him!

[molly muffin]

We all know just how very diligent both you and your hubby have been, how very careful with Spencer.

Hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

I hope it will make it up to my sweet boy that i have on the stove, rice cooking in fresh chicken broth with green beans, peas, carrots and pumpkin!

He loves his breakfast meal so much! We also add boiled chicken to it and he just gobbles it up! In the evening he usually barks for some, but tonight he didn't do that! I hope that's not a bad omen! He's been pretty quiet in fact!

:( worried momma

[molly muffin]

Well yea, I'd like that too. Well, maybe without the pumpkin in the chicken broth. hmm, yea, maybe not that but otherwise, for sure. I also might just like the idea of something cooking for me. ROFL!

okay, quiet? well, maybe quiet is okay. Don't want him excited too much tonight, but do want him to eat, etc.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Lol.....soon as it was cooked, i dished up a little for him......he looked up at me an growled...as if saying...this is mine! He ate a good portion, but not too much! The pumpkin has been added as an additional filler. My lil boy should weigh around 6 lbs max......but the cushings and meds has pushed his weight to severe obese since the first of this year. Last weigh in at his vet, he was 11 lbs 11ozs!:eek:

Trying to feed him so he feels full without a lot of calories!

[molly muffin]

I totally understand the use for it. It's great that Spencer likes it so much too. That is good that he ate, no appetite loss, so that is good. He's probably not feeling too bad then.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Thank you, Sharlene! I am a bit worried about going to bed since he's had 3 seizures in just the past week while on meds, even increased dose every 8 hours without fail! We set our phone to wake us for his midnight dose, and this morning he seized within 30 mins of getting his meds! I don't want to sound hysterical, far from it.....but in the depth of my heart I dread tonight! Just venting! Hubs is like.... Well, it won't kill him! If he has a seizure, it happens!

MEN!!!

[molly muffin]

Of course you are worried. I would be too.
All you can do is try to keep an eye out for it and be with him if it happens. Maybe it won't.
I think Men just handle things differently. Mine Never shows the amount of worry that I do.

I'm pulling for all of you tonight for a seizure free evening.

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Much needed words of encouragement......thank you from the bottom of my heart! Keep fingers, toes......eyes if you can..lol....crossed we have a good night and my lil sweet man gets the rest he needs and there are no seizures!

[molly muffin]

Well, I'll cross everything but it's going to make it tough getting up those stairs tonight and you know molly likes to be carried up to bed. LOL

Nah, I'll do it, you know I will. :) Molly will even cross her paws and she's got 4 of them! It's like bonus crossing.

huggers
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Hey, that works! Tell Molly that Spencer is her biggest admirer!!! Hope you have a good night too! Check back in tomorrow!

[Spencersmom]

Well, i stayed up till 2:00am with my boy hoping that he wouldn't have a seizure but at 2:50 he woke me up crying out! It was mild, and didn't last very long.

I really hate seizures!!

[molly muffin]

Dang. Wish he hadn't had one. Glad it was a mild one and not a grand mal.

Hopefully tonight will be better.

Hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Well.....so much for the neurologist!!! I've called and have been dissed 3X's now! Pretty dissapointed about that! Will call his regular vet tomorrow and plan on giving them an ear full of my opinion!

Pretty sad when a patient is ignored for what ever reason! No excuse for that! I'm really upset!

[molly muffin]

Oh no. That is terrible! Why on earth wouldn't they call back. They know how spencer is. :(.

How did he do last night?

Hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

Sharlene....i really have no idea! I've taken Lexi to them, and now Spencer! The only thing I can assume is that they aren't going to make big $$$$$ from us for MRI's and lazer treatments! I'm so upset right now to think that I placed so much faith in the doctors and my Spencer isn't worth so much as a call!

[Spencersmom]

Sorry, meant to include that he slept really well last night! No issues, and he is just really fighting so hard! If we could just get the seizures under control, to no more than once every few months, that would be great! I'm just so very sad that the medical support system I have relied on has let me down!

From last tuesday morning a week ago, he has had 4 seizures! :(

[molly muffin]

Call them back again. Tell them. He has had 4 seizures and you need to talk to a neurologist Now. Then call your vet and tell them what is going on. Of they can call Nero for you that would work too.

Glad he slept through the night.

Hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin

[Spencersmom]

I called the neurologist 3x's now and I've talked to their staff, and once one of the associates......but not the Dr I went to for counsel, who seemed to be so caring and concerned.....NOT! Sorry.....i'm really feeling angry right now! My lil man is sick...I just want to help him....and I just don't understand how anyone in the medical field can totally ignore a patient in need of care!:mad: yes, I am venting!:mad::mad::mad:

[molly muffin]

I would be angry and venting too!!!
You can vent here any time you want!
Hugs
Sharlene and Molly muffin

[molly muffin]

Anything from vet or neuro today? How did Spencer do last night?

Keeping everything crossed here!
hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Trish]

Ohhhh I could still see steam coming off your thread, so sorry to read about your vet not getting back to you. I hate how they think it is not urgent when we think it is!!! Not fair. Hope Spencer doing OK past few days and seizure free x

[Spencersmom]

Finally heard from the neuro.....upped the Keppra one more time! If this doesn't do the trick, we will have to re-visit RX options and maybe add something else! Hope we don't have to go there! The Keppra sure makes him awfully hungry tho, as if he wasn't already ravenous enuf from the cushings!!! No seizures tho since last week! Yay for small victories!

[molly muffin]

We'll take it. Every small victory is a big one in reality.

I hope this does the trick and helps him. Any explanation on what took so long to get back to you?

hugs
Sharlene and molly muffin