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anneappraiser
05-11-2013, 02:51 PM
Hi, My name is Annie and I live in Southern California out in the desert near the mountains. It is very hot and dry here. Over time, I have rescued 5 dogs, 1 kitty (one already passed on) and I have a desert tortoise too, all rescued. The dogs were all rescued from highly abusive and horrific situations and the cat was running loose out in San Bernardino County, where lots of wild dogs roam.

Two of my dogs are mini schnauzers, likely around 6 - 7 years old I think(Spunky and Baby, most likely sister and brother) abandoned in the desert from a puppy mill it is believed and they were covered with brown ticks when found. Two of them are chihuahuas, one around 10 or more years old (Foxie - from a woman who was evicted and was going to dump all her animals) and the other about 4 years old (Charlie, who was literally dropped into my arms and then the lady escaped into the night at the dog pound Christmas eve about 4 years ago). Then there is one larger sort of terrier mix, the much coveted "lucky" breed I rescued from sure death several months ago (Bunny because she was out running with all the bunnies). She had been dumped out by the freeway on the access road, and I am positive that one more day out there and she would have died. Busterbrown, my cat, is around 7 - 8 or more years old, and Big Boy tortoise (who was walking down my street when I lived near Torrance, CA, and whom would have walked into the storm drain, was never claimed by anyone). He was in pitiful shape and I nursed him too back to health, and he is about 70 or so years old. I have had him for some nearly 14 years or more.

I am 71 years old and I am doing my very best I can to give my little rescues all a good and safe life. Currently I cook their food, generally chicken, and I also give them brown rice and mixed veggies with that on top of dry food. I have to admit I am not using the expensive dry food, but I get what I can afford and I try very hard to get the best for the money. I put powdered bone meal on all of their food and extra vitamins in the lucky breed's food to try to help her get back to total health.

One of my mini schnauzers a friend and I suspect might have Cushing's. She is heavy despite the fact that she eats very reasonably and not a lot. She does have the thirst and does need to go tinkle frequently. Her back legs also shake. Her chest is puffed out too and her little belly is really swollen. Despite all of this, she seems very happy and she does go outside and gets exercise. She turned like this within a month after her neutering.

Someone gives me greens for the tortoise, or I find enough natural greens in places where there is no spraying. The cat eats dry food and a spoonful or so of meat every day and he is very healthy and peaceful.

I am just so worried about Baby, the one who might have the Cushing's. I don't know that I can afford all those expensive tests, but I have tried to read up what I can on the Internet now that my friend who has owned many mini schnauzers has said he thinks it is Cushing's.

I hope I can find some help for things I can try to do to help her have a decent quality of life. I could get supplements, etc. for her, and I don't know about the raw food. I have tried it in the past for former dogs (they all live with me until they pass on from old age or something like cancer) and they didn't like it and wouldn't eat it.

Thank you all very kindly and I hope I can come up with some good ideas to help my dog to live a comfortable life even with this. If there are any resources for medical help that is affordable, I will be grateful to know about them. My pets are house dogs and they do go out in the yard for exercise and fresh air and necessaries, but they are really not exposed to other dogs. Because of their previous traumas, they really like to just be with me where I am in the house or outside. Bunny, whom I believe was thrown out of a car, throws up if we even get into the car before it even moves. I always fear that if I take them to the pound, they might all end up abused again, and I would die if that were to happen. Thank you very much again, Annie

Budsters Mom
05-11-2013, 03:38 PM
Hello and welcome!
I am sorry for the reason that brought you here, but so glad that you found us.
You have come to the right place! There are many K9Cushing's angels standing by to help and stay with you every step of the way. They love details, test results, any information you can get your hands on. The more the better. Others will be popping in shortly to welcome you also. Bless you for taking care of all those little rescues.:)
So again welcome to you and Baby,

Hugs,
Kathy and Buddy:cool:

Harley PoMMom
05-11-2013, 03:46 PM
Hi Annie,

Welcome to you and all of your sweet furbabies!! Oh my what a family you have and Bless you for giving them a loving forever home.

I have just a moment to post, and I wanted to provide you with a link from our Resource Thread with info regarding financial assistance: Financial Resources to help with Vet bills (http://www.k9cushings.com/forum/showthread.php?t=212)

If you could provide all the details you can about Baby, such as posting any test results, all of her symptoms, any herbs/supplements/medicines she is taking, any thing you can think of, we love details!!

I'll come back later and I am sure the others will be by soon to offer their advice and to welcome you.

Love and hugs, Lori

frijole
05-11-2013, 05:07 PM
Hello! Schnauzers are not prone to cushings but can get it - one of my gals did. They are prone to thyroid issues as well as diabetes. Both of these diseases mimic cushings so you'd have to do testing to determine what you are dealing with. You could rule diabetes in or out with a blood panel. That would also give you a feel for what is going on. I would simply start there. Pray for hypothyroidism as it is easy to treat - pills cost about $9 a month. :) Kim

Squirt's Mom
05-11-2013, 05:37 PM
Hi and welcome to you and all your babies, Baby in particular! :)


She is heavy despite the fact that she eats very reasonably and not a lot. She does have the thirst and does need to go tinkle frequently. Her back legs also shake. Her chest is puffed out too and her little belly is really swollen. Despite all of this, she seems very happy and she does go outside and gets exercise. She turned like this within a month after her neutering.

It isn't uncommon for pups to really pack on the weight after they are spayed, especially if spayed later in life. A change to a lower carb feed and feeding less, plus more exercise can help prevent this. Cushing's does NOT come on suddenly but takes years to be obvious - most folks think their dog is simply aging. ;) Cushing's signs almost always include a voracious appetite - not being a little pig but acting as if they are literally starving every second of the day and night. They will suddenly start getting into the trash or counter surfing or snatching food out of your hand as you eat. They don't drink a little extra - they drink buckets and buckets of water. They often lose their housetraining and start having accidents in the house even tho they just went out and peed not long before. And it isn't a case of drinking so much that makes them pee so much - it is the opposite, they HAVE to drink so much in order to stay hydrated because the disease makes them pee so much. Cush pups will start to lose their hair around the back end area - back legs, torso, and tail (a "rat tail" is common). When groomed or shaved for a medical procedure, the hair is very, very slow to regrow - if it does regrow.

Your babies are lucky to have you to give them a safe home. This old world could use more folk like you.

Hugs,
Leslie and the gang

molly muffin
05-11-2013, 11:16 PM
Hi Annie and gang and welcome! We're so happy to have you join our big family.
Leslie is right, cushings doesn't come on fast, but very slow and the symptoms she mentioned are part and partial of cushings, appetite out of this world, buckets of water, accidents all the time, panting and looking for cool places to sleep (probably not a reasonable symptom to be able to tell when in a dessert area). Still, after spaying sometimes, the intermediate hormones can be out of whack too.
I'd try a simple blood panel to start out and to rule out diaebetes, thyroid. I'm just not sure right now if cushings is what is going on due to you saying this came on after the spaying suddenly.
Whatever it might be, welcome to the family, we're happy to have you and all your babies here with us.

Sharlene and Molly Muffin