Trixie - Schnauzer being treated with Vetoryl - Trixie has crossed The Bridge

[Trixie]

The vet just called! Pre: 2.9
Post: 4.1

Can you all believe it!!??
Meanwhile I asked about liver numbers and all the rest and he said he just ran the stim. UGH! So suprised he didn't do a complete test because he did every other time. So, he said lets give it a few more weeks and if all stays good bring her in for the whole check up and run the liver, urine culture etc.

It's okay. I don't want to get negative about anything today because right now things are good. The numbers are good and Trixie seems really good. I feel it's okay to wait and get everything checked again in a few weeks. She's due in August for the whole check-up anyway and maybe a few more weeks with decreased symptoms will yield some good liver numbers.
I AM SO HAPPY! :D
At least for now things are good!!!!!!!! :D :D

[Squirt's Mom]

Sometimes the vet wants the pup fasted for lab work which won't work with an ACTH so it is usually best to do the tests separately. ;)

[Trixie]

Glad that there's a good reason then!! :p
We'll do it in August and if her symptoms are decreased for a few more weeks hopefully the liver numbers will look better than they would today anyway.
B.

[Trish]

Great news Barbara, now Miss Trixie, you stay right where you are and no sneaking back up again!! YIPEE!! Awesome! x

[Harley PoMMom]

Those are great numbers!!! So happy for you and our sweet Trixie. ;)

[Roxee's Dad]

Woo Hoo.. good job and congratulations :D:D:D

[Boriss McCall]

HI Barbara,
that is great news!! :D yay Trixie!!!

I agree waiting a few weeks might give you even better results on the liver. I am glad things are running smoother for you two.

[goldengirl88]

Way to go Trixie. Tipper and I are doing the happy dance for you.

[Budsters Mom]

AWESOME! The bloodwork should be done at a different time than the ACTH, because it usually requires a fast. The doc is right! Great job mom and Miss Trixie! This mean that she's going to be wanting more steak! :D LOL xxxxxx

[spdd]

Glad to hear such good news.

[molly muffin]

YES!!!! Fabulous news!!! I couldn't be happier to read this today. Those numbers are right where you want them to be

Hugs
Sharlene

[labblab]

i am really happy, too!! Good job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) :)

Marianne

[Trixie]

Thanks everyone! :p Don't know what I would have done without everyone here these last 4 months. You all got me through this crazy stuff!!
Hoping Trixie holds steady for awhile, but who knows? Today I'm just happy and grateful for the big improvement over the last test..it's such a relief to know she's gotten better and not worse. :)

Barbara :D

[Simba's Mom]

yay, way to go Trixie!!!!!!

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Glad to hear you will be saving some money. All of this is so expensive, you have to save where you can. Just keep thinking Trixie will continue to do well, keep that in your mind so as not to worry. I know it is easier said than done. It is a blessing that her numbers are good and she is feeling well. Just keep on watching her carefully and she will continue to improve. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

A good number from Tuesday's test... :( but today symptoms peeking back in. :confused: :mad:
I'll wait and watch. It's always the evenings that there is a bit of a wearing off and that's what I noticed tonight.
There was also rain coming down--no thunder, but the rain still stresses her. She had her evening dose at 10pm and it seems to have settled in now. I'm bringing her into bed.
Hoping tomorrow it's all less and not more. :rolleyes:

Barbara

[Simba's Mom]

Hey Barbara, Simba always had that to where the med stared wearing off, very restless, looked around like seeing stuff but nothing was there, those poor little fur-babies, terrible disease..hoping Trixie feels better tomorrow, hugs!!

[labblab]

A good number from Tuesday's test... :( but today symptoms peeking back in. :confused: :mad:
I'll wait and watch. It's always the evenings that there is a bit of a wearing off and that's what I noticed tonight.
There was also rain coming down--no thunder, but the rain still stresses her. She had her evening dose at 10pm and it seems to have settled in now. I'm bringing her into bed.
Hoping tomorrow it's all less and not more. :rolleyes:

Barbara
So she does not get her morning dose until 10 am? Just an idle thought, but maybe it would help to move up her dosing schedule so that she's getting both doses earlier during the daytime hours. Depending on how late you guys sleep in the morning, she's likely starting out each morning with several hours of only minimal drug effect at best (maximal concentration isn't kicking in again until around noon), and then after dosing, the trilo again starts troughing again around dinnertime so she's getting minimal drug again throughout the evening. And the 10 pm dose doesn't really kick in until after she's asleep again. If you move the dosing cycle earlier, she'd get more drug benefit during her active waking hours...

Marianne

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
I think what Marianne is saying is your best bet, as I went thru this with Tipper and started dosing her at 7a.m. and 7p.m.. It seemed to get her thru her waking hours much better. When it started to wear off she would be sleeping and not know it. That also allowed me to get to the vets earlier for her ACTH testing and get out of there before it was crowded. I think this might help Trixie more. It is cool here in the morning now so Tipper can walk without heat and humidity for now. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Marianne and Patti....The dosing schedule is something I have thought about. I know your suggestions make sense and yet the day works so well and she seems so attuned to this schedule. She's usually still lolling in bed at 7am and she doesn't eat until later in the morning. so a 7am dose is too early for her I believe.

We are up and out by 8am. I take her on a long walk...about 60-90 minutes. She eats when we return and I give her the 10am dose right before she gets her full plate of food.
Also- before diagnosis she was restless overnight, panting, moving about, needing water...I don't want that again either.
I feel like a 7-8am dose would wear off by 5-6pm and I'd be stuck with the same behavior I get at 8-9pm. So...just not sure.

The funny thing is that each day seems to be different.
I can tell when she gets up how it's going to be.
Today-very relaxed, didn't jump out of bed until I was up, more like her usual morning ways. Didn't need to have water before we left the house. Great walk, ate well and napping comfortably, belly is not bloated.

Yesterday was the opposite. Even though she didn't have symptoms all day she was just more"wired". She jumped out of bed when my husband was leaving at 7am...drank first thing and slightly restless during the day, belly seemed bloated most of the day. Drank more in the evening and had some panting. There was rain...storms around and she does react to that...so maybe that was part of it? I hate to always try and find an excuse...maybe it really was the weather but I hate to think I in denial! She did hide out in the bathroom much of the day, but today she's back in her usual spot. Maybe the weather screws her up more than I know?

I can see right away today she is going to have a controlled day. She's just more "normal"...right from the start much more relaxed.
This is how she was last week when things were very controlled, and last week evenings were okay too, I didn't see the same wear off effect that we had the last 2 evenings.

This dog loves that morning in the park so much...she trots in the entrance with such spirit. If you saw it you would know right away I'm not exaggerating. We walked over 2 miles...she didn't miss a beat, didn't tire and was loving every minute of it.
I just hate to mess with that. She also has never in 9 years eaten breakfast before 9:30-10am....we have such a regimented morning, I guess I'm afraid to change it after so many years.

She gets the 10pm dose-pills in dog food or cheese and some extra treats on the side and then my husband takes her out for her late walk. I guess I'll see how it goes. I don't discount your idea...just afraid to change I guess. I'll see what happens this evening without the weather issue.

As usual thank you for listening and responding!! :)
Barbara

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Barbara,
Yes, I did mention possible adjusting the dosing schedule before when Trixie's meds were wearing off in the evening. You did insist that the 10AM/10 PM time works best for you. It is hard when each day is a little different.

I love to hear about Trixie's joy and adventures at the park.:)xxxx

[Trixie]

Well maybe it was yesterday's weather. All is well today and also this evening. Trixie's drinking is normal and everything else is good too. :) She's resting- no panting, no drinking, nothing... no wearing off at all tonight.
So-either the rain really freaks her out more than I even thought it did or each day is just going to be a bit different than the day before. Some good, some not so good.
Guess I'll just have to take it as it comes. I can't get over the difference of yesterday vs. today. :p

Yes Kathy--she has the best time at the park. Since today was not too hot and she's feeling better we are back to walking to and from..(no cab) and also going all the way around the Great Lawn. It's quite a walk...there were many dogs out and Trixie got her fill of sniffing and marking! She left many messages today! haha! Hoping tomorrow's thunder storms hold off so we can get the morning walk in...her day is always better when she gets that time off her leash.

Barbara

[Trish]

Awww glad she had a good day, I think Flynny is much better when he gets his walk in too... I am sitting here deciding whether to go soon or not as there are some awful dark clouds out there, but he missed out yesterday as it was too rainy. I think he gets depressed if he does not get his exercise!! So important for them, your walk sounds lovely and Trixie is fighting fit with good acth this week and now settled symptoms **fingers crossed** x

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
I think since this cortisol involves the fight or flight mechanism in these babies Trixie will continue to have good and bad days like Tipper. When Tipper's cortisol is on the lower end she naturally is really jumpy and scared of noises and storms terrify her. If her cortisol were higher it would give her a cushion and she would not be in the fight or flight mode so much. I hope Trixie continues to do well. We are waiting on rain here so Tipper will probably go in the closet. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

So how is little miss Trixie doing? Did she stay home on Sunday this weekend?

Her numbers are good, so a day of off drinking, could just be that, a day that she felt more thirsty, as opposed to cushings. If her cortisol isn't high, then that isn't what would be making her drink abnormal amount of water. High cortisol = higher body temperatures, thirsty dog = peeing. That is pretty much the simplified route of cushings and drinking/peeing episodes.

Molly Loves the cooler weather and I bet Trixie does too. :)

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Trixie]

Hi Sharlene,

Sometimes it's so hard for me to tell how Trixie is really doing. If I judge by her activity level, her appetite and her demeanor then she's doing well. Some days not as good as others but generally she's good. There's always just this feeling I have that she's not 100% and it's probably because she isn't...but she's okay.

I know the basic measure of normal water intake would be an ounce per pound of the dog. At the worst of Trixie's symptoms she was drinking close to 50oz in one day- which freaked me out! It's much, much better now but we're still above what's considered normal.

Trixie drinks somewhere between 18 and 28oz of water ....the average lately probably about 23-26oz. over the course of the day- 8am-midnight. She's pretty active, taking her long walk every morning and another walk in the late afternoon and she does drink when she comes in from these walks.
Would love opinions on whether this is really still excessive or not.
She actually goes for a pretty long stretch during the day where she doesn't go near the water dish.

I guess I have to get used to the fact that not everyday is going to be great. Today she was okay-just not "as good" as some days from last week. Drinking a bit more and a little hyper today.

Barbara

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
That is something I have had to adjust to also. Tipper seems ok at times and then not ok other times. I think I am constantly judging what she is doing and then using that to sort of guess if she is feeling ok. It is hard, and some days Tipper will drink more water than others. Lately she has been drinking more so I will be anxious to see her numbers Friday as she gets her ACTH tomorrow. I am praying the blood work comes back good and the alk phos has not gone any higher. As soon as you get it all figured out about the water sure as anything, then something will start with the eating or pooping. This disease is constantly throwing curve balls at you. I used to cringe every time Tipper went past the water bowl, and still get suspicious when she drinks more than normal. This sure does keep you on your toes. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Patti- I have to tell you it feels better just knowing someone else is going thru the same thing!
I guess it's just getting used to a new normal. We had good numbers and yet some symptoms come and go. Today I notice the belly a bit distended, yesterday there was some panting. I'm the same about the water dish..when she heads to it I'm hoping she takes a quick sip and walks away.
The worry just gets to me. Somehow I never feel like she's just fine..there always seems to be something that causes me to wonder if she's okay.
Guess that's what it is living with this disease, just makes lots of anxiety.
Hoping Tipper has good numbers from this week's test. ;)

Barbara

[addy]

In the beginning, every time Zoe headed to the water dish, I would throw my hands up in the air and cry "OMG, she is drinking WATER":eek::eek: My hubby would look at me like I had lost my mind and say "So What?"

I don't know if that fear ever goes away completely, maybe we just learn how to live with it. :) They will have their good days and bad days.

I think you are doing a really good job!!

[doxiesrock912]

Addy, you'll know the difference.

When Daisy is doing well, there are times when she doesn't empty her water bowl in one shot. That's how I know.

Sometimes the guys just don't get it. They haven't done the research that we have.

[Trixie]

Addy, That's what goes on here! My husband and kids think I am crazy for stressing when Trixie goes to the water bowl. I just can't help tracking it all the time. They don't get it that when I see the drinking I'm seeing the disease still evident. They just see a thirsty dog.
I just took Trixie for a walk..I let her kind of lead the way and we ended up out for over an hour. It's beautiful and breezy and she really wanted to walk so we did. We came in and she drank 6oz of water.. I don't think that's an excessive amount considering the long walk and it's the 2nd one of the day. All and all she's only up to 15oz total so far today. Guess that's not so bad. I think so far today is a pretty good day.
Wish I could ease off my obsession with the water but it's my only gauge of how she's doing.
Valerie-it's always a relief for me when the bowl is not empty! :)

[molly muffin]

Hi Barbara, I think it is pretty natural that after a long walk she would drink plenty of water. Molly will too if she has been out for a bit of a longer walk than usual. Even a small walk and she'll go get a drink as soon as I take the leash off her.
I think you're doing great too. :)

hugs,
sharlene and molly muffin

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Tipper runs to the bowl as soon as we get home too. We are going for the ACTH today and blood work so here goes!! Blessings
Patti

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Barbara,
That doesn't sound like Trixie's drinking too much water. :confused: I continue to be amazed that she still up to taking those really long walks!:D Trixie, you go girl!:p:D xxxx

[Simba's Mom]

I'm so glad that Trixie still loves her walks, that really helped my Sim too, to stay active, hugs

[Trixie]

Thank you Kathy and Letti, Trixie's walks are a favorite time for both of us. Not today though due to drizzles and awful humidity. Could only do about a 45 minutes outside and then came home, was just too hot and muggy.
Things are a little better everyday. Trixie's urine was actually yellow this afternoon. I almost couldn't believe it...not really dark but definitely tinted and not looking completely like clear water as it has been all these weeks. Water drinking was very normal today. Knocking wood as to not jinx all this. :eek:

Just worried now because she does seem rather bloated and her belly is a little distended, which was not so prevalent when this all began.
It's not so bad in the morning but in the evening I notice the belly. Hoping her liver isn't enlarged, that does worry me quite a bit as her numbers have been so high all along.
We will have a check up and blood work the week after next.
Want to go get that all done and see the numbers...but also frightened to see them too, all the doubts start to creep in even though things are going well.

On a positive note... I got 2 months of both meds ordered today. Vertoryl from Lambert..thanks to Patti's suggestion, and Trilostane from Diamondback..thanks Kathy. For once the vets office actually put all the scripts through on the day I called!! A first!! I usually have to call a few times over a few days to get the scripts faxed or approved. I'm still so surprised it all was accomplished in one day! :D :D :D
Prices were great, especially compared to what I pay here in the city. I won't even say how much they charge here as I don't want to put any of you into shock! :eek:

So like everyone I'm still worried..but also relieved and grateful for all the recent improvement. :)

Barbara

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Only two walks for Tipper as the humidity is climbing steadily. Glad Trixie is still enjoying the walks. That is about all the enjoyment they get these days so when they cannot go out they somehow have to get rid of that energy. Tipper moves everything in the house around. So I spend part of my time putting things back she has rearranged. Oh well I don't care as long as she is here with me the whole house can go to the dogs! I am working on solutions to her numbers this morning. Blessings
Patti

[Trish]

Hi Barbara

Trixie is going to enjoy her walks for a long long time!! No reason not to when she has such a beautiful place to walk in, I think it is so important for dogs to get out into nature, walk on the grass and play with their own kind. It makes me sad that some people wrap them in cotton wool and don't let them just "be dogs"!! Awesome to hear that she is doing well, fingers crossed (:eek: don't want to jinx anything) that her symptoms continue to subside and she has finally hit the magic dose! xx

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Barbara,
I am glad that you got Trixie's meds sorted out. What a relief! Yes, I was very happy with Diamondback Drugs.:D

I am sorry to hear that Trixie has been bloated in the evening. I hope that sorts itself out soon. I think worrying just comes with the territory.:o xxxxx

[goldengirl88]

Barbara;
I am so glad you got your drugs cheaper, as the savings all add up. This becomes such an expense you have to save whenever possible. Glad you got it all cleared up, and hope Trixie can get some good walks in this weekend. I think of you every time I eat the Laughing Cow cheese!!Blessings
Patti

[addy]

I love Laughing Cow cheese:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Trixie]

:D Me too!! Laughing Cow is so good. I get it at Costco now! Like having it "in stock" so I never run out! :p

[Trixie]

Took Trixie to my mother's on Sunday. She hadn't been there in a number of weeks but my husband wanted to come.
Trixie did her usual crazy water drinking there and on a constant hunt for food. She did go a on very long walk..my husband probably over-did it on the length of the walk. They did take a break for a bit and he texted to say they were resting and I offered to pick them up but he felt she was fine.
They got back and she drank so much. I couldn't stand seeing her at the water dish so much, and then of course a number of trips outside to pee, not to mention the panting she did in the car on the way home. It sets off my nerves like crazy. Felt like we were back to square one.
I was so worried we had another case of her symptoms getting bad again but thankfully today she was doing fine.
No excessive drinking and everything else okay. WHEW. :rolleyes:
I guess I have to expect an off day when things are out of the norm, like going in the car and spending the day at my mothers. Trixie's best days are when everything goes according to the usual schedule-everything the same. Unfortunately we all have to go out next weekend as some old friends are coming to see my Mom...so this will be going on again next Sunday and I will not be looking forward to it.

Tomorrow we are supposed to have a big thunder storm first thing at 7am with on and off storms through the afternoon. :(
Definitely not a usual morning, and that also means no morning exercise. The panting is likely to start up first thing if that storm blows in as forecast. :(
Hoping some how it misses us!! :eek:

Barbara

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Barbara,
You feel stressed and a little off when you visit your mom. It's no different for Trixie. Not only is her schedule out of whack, she senses your apprehension. It can't be helped. You both deserve a Cushings symptoms monitoring break when you are away from home. You have enough to attend to with your mom. :p

As for the storms, they will blow through. They always do! I can say that because it hardly ever rains here. We haven't had a thunderstorm in probably five years or more. A couple days of rain and we no longer know how to function.:D We are a bunch of southern California wusses. :D xxxx

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
I can hear the angst in your posting, and know that feeling well. Every time Tipper goes to the water bowl or starts to pant I get a know in my stomach. Know this, after Tipper started on the Vetoryl one of the vets I have a lot of respect for told me this drug can change their personalities. He was right as it has done this to my girl. She is afraid of loud noises now and never was before, real jumpy all the time. The panting you are seeing in Trixie may be nerves, as I now know Tipper is not panting because of the cortisol as hers is very low now. I am glad at least I got that figured out. Maybe Trixie is feeling anxious at times and that is where the panting is coming in?? Sometimes when Tipper gets anxious she drinks also. Maybe it isn't the cortisol doing this to her as we would naturally tend to think. Any little variation sets Tipper's nerves off, so this could be the problem with your baby. Hope it all goes well during the storm. We had one last nite, but no thunder thank God. Blessings
Patti

[Harley PoMMom]

Barbara, do you think this is some sort of anxiety Trixie is experiencing? And if so, maybe some melatonin would help?

[Trixie]

Watching Trixie when she's at my mothers house I would say it's not anxiety at all but excitability. She's very excited when we get there, happy to be there, in fact she loves it. She enters the house hyped up and slightly crazed, makes the once over sniffing around.
She loves to go outside where she can sniff up the country smells and when she gets back in she wants breakfast, and soon wants out again. Then from all the trips outdoors she comes in thirsty and wants to drink...and drink she does..and of course then she needs to go out again..and well you see the cycle. There's not the same kind of rest that she has here at home. She's worked up. She knows my mother is going to sit and eat so she's all over that. My brother goes in the kitchen and gets food so she follows him around for awhile.

She had meds at 10am and then was a bit more settled for awhile until after noontime when my husband took her on the long walk-probably close to a mile and a half. She will stand in front of where he is sitting just staring him down until he takes her out. They were out awhile...it was fairly warm, but not hot. She did come back very tired but boy was she thirsty and drank a lot. Finally she took a pretty long rest but after the big drink she needed to go back outside once she woke up.
So-this is what goes on when we're there which is why she's been staying here at home with my husband the last few weeks.
She is not nervous (unless there is thunder around)..she's just Trixie being a schnauzer...nose into everything, looking for crumbs, guarding the door, hyped up..all that kind of stuff.
Yesterday and today she is doing great at home. She was out early at 7am because of the rain coming and just went out again at 3pm. So she was fine all day. Hasn't been to the water since about 11am and just now went in for a drink at 3:30 because she just came back from a walk. Even with this morning's rain she has been cool, calm and collected.

She does have to come along again this Sunday and it will be worse because we will have some visitors at my mother's house for a couple of hours. :eek: She doesn't like interlopers. :rolleyes:

I'm interested in the use of melatonin for dogs. Does it have any side effects? Is there a standard dosing? I know Trixie well...she has anxiety when thunder storms happen, going to the vet and going to the groomer. Other than that I would say she's got that terrier mentality that she's had since puppyhood.

Also someone once mentioned fish oil for the very high liver numbers. The same kind of caps for people...like krill oil? How much and how do you give it? Trixie loves salmon treats...they do make her thirsty though. Does fish oil increase thirst? Should the vet give an okay for fish oil or is it fine to just start giving it??

Guess I just have to deal with Sundays and have her stay home as much as I can..it's that my husband likes to come along. :rolleyes:

[Simba's Mom]

Hey Barbara, sending hugs for you, sorry that Trixie is having some off days, cushings is so up and down sometimes, you just worry all the time....take care of you too....

[Trixie]

Thanks Letti,
I wrote a book on my last post. :eek: Didn't mean to go on and on. :eek:Anyway Trixie is really doing okay. Just hyped up when at my mothers. Otherwise it's going okay. :D

Barbara

[goldengirl88]

Barbara;
I know you can give the fish oil, the only thing I would add is that my vet cautioned me not too much and only twice a week with my cat. I never had the opportunity to question him on why only 2x a week. Glad Trixie is continuing to do well. Blessings
Patti

[Junior's Mom]

I give Junior omega 3 (salmon oil) every day in his dinner. It reduces inflammation, and has brought his cholesterol and some other numbers down. I give him the people version. After many attempts and much mess at opening the gel caps, I finally started using a corn on the cob holder (prong). It works great. I just squirt the oil onto his food. It's 1000mg of fish oil, providing 180mg of epa and 120mg dha.

[Trixie]

Thanks...I believe my dog could use fish oil, and the last blood test showed high cholesterol. I'll check with the vet about what amount would be best for Trixie.

Barbara

[Budsters Mom]

Please check with your vet before you start the fish oil in order to get the correct milligrams. Trixie has had some pretty serious tummy issues. I wouldn't personally start anything like that without checking with the vet first. But, that's just me being a mother hen. Xxxx

[Trixie]

Kathy--Don't worry--I am not doing anything without discussion and approval by the vet. Making a check-up appt. for next week and will ask about fish oil. Need to get blood work and urine test. Very nervous about it though...so afraid of what I might hear. Trixie's belly has been bloated, more than it was when this all started. Very worried about that belly.
Meanwhile-she's got plenty of energy and all digestive stuff has been normal..all good. She even has some color in her urine. Not a lot but at least it is not totally clear like water this week.
Hoping that accounts for something. :confused:
Always worried and questioning everything. :eek:

Barbara

[Budsters Mom]

You can chase the little monkey for a while. You'd soon forget to count how much Trixie is drinking, that's for sure! :D:DLOL

[Harley PoMMom]

I'm interested in the use of melatonin for dogs. Does it have any side effects? Is there a standard dosing? I know Trixie well...she has anxiety when thunder storms happen, going to the vet and going to the groomer. Other than that I would say she's got that terrier mentality that she's had since puppyhood.

Also someone once mentioned fish oil for the very high liver numbers. The same kind of caps for people...like krill oil? How much and how do you give it? Trixie loves salmon treats...they do make her thirsty though. Does fish oil increase thirst? Should the vet give an okay for fish oil or is it fine to just start giving it??



Dogs weighing <30lbs can be given 3 mg of melatonin every 12hrs (BID). Dogs weighing >30lbs can be given 6 mg every 12 hrs (BID). I don't know of any ill side effects but some dogs may get a bit drowsy so starting at the low end of the scale might be better.

I give Bear wild salmon oil because it is has anti-inflammatory properties. Before starting any supplement I would ask the vet before starting it.

Love and hugs, Lori

[addy]

The only thing I found with Zoe and melatonin is it makes her very tired the next day when I give her a dose before bed and it bothers her dry eye disease. I've held off on the fish oil for Zoe because I too worried about what it may do to her tummy.:o

It seems we are always worried about something, sorry you have to be worried again. I do know when Zoe has any kind of change in her routine it seems her Cushing symptoms flare. The other morning the cable people were here and she spent an hour locked up in the kitchen and stood at the door, barking for an hour- she still thinks her job is to guard the house against strangers- she was "off" the rest of the day and the following day:(

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
You are making a good choice talking to your vet about the fish oil. It seems sometimes little things can throw off the Cush dogs easily. You will get it straightened out I am sure. Hope Trixie enjoys a walk today it is real nice and cool here. Blessings
patti

[Budsters Mom]

Okay Barbara,
It's time to start thinking about what's going right instead of what could be going wrong.;):) You mentioned that Trixie has plenty of energy and her tummy is good. That is definitely going right!:p The fact that she can walk like there's no tomorrow and her urine has a little color, is more things going right! Enjoy every minute while things are going well. Take those memories and safeguard them for when you need them later. Try not to worry so much! Xxxx

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
It is nice and cool here this morning, but I think we are in for rain. Hope you get a chance to get out and take Trixie for her walk. I know Tipper gets very naughty if she does not get her walking in. They just don't act the same, they need to burn off that energy. Hope Trixie is still doing well. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Can't help the worrying. Watching Trixie all the time...trying to figure out if she's okay. Sometimes she seems great and sometimes not. Anyway...more worry because I'm headed to the vet now!! Poor Trixie going to be all shaking and scared. Won't know much until the blood work comes back. Vet will see/feel this lipoma for the first time and I hope it IS a lipoma. Will fill in later...
We better head across the street now. So nervous for this appt.!! :eek:

Barbara

[Squirt's Mom]

You don't go in alone, Barbara. We are all right by your side. Let us know how things go when you get a chance!
Hugs,
Leslie and the gang

[doxiesrock912]

Crossing my fingers that it's just a lipoma and nothing to worry about.

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
I know what the worrying is like, so I am not going to tell you to stop, but instead tell you that I have heard of many of the Cushings dogs, and people too having the limpomas. I am praying for you and Trixie that that is all it is. Lumps make you really worry, until the vet sees them. I always like someone else to tell me that it is nothing instead of trying to guess. Hoping for a good outcome. Are you giving Trixie any liver support supplements? If not maybe that would help bring the numbers down. Was her gallbladder checked during any of the visits? Maybe the vet could suggest something to get the liver values down. Blessings
Patti

[Budsters Mom]

Lipomas are running rampant around here, it's probably just that.:D
Fingers, toes and paws crossed that Trixie's liver numbers are down at least a little.xxxx

[Trish]

Good luck with Trixie today Barabara, you are a good Mom! x

[molly muffin]

Hi Barbara,

I'm betting it is just like Molly's and probably a lipoma. I think that as the dogs get older they just get them or maybe some are predisposed to them even. I don't really know.

Crossing fingers that you're going to have some excellent blood values too. :)

hugs
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Trixie]

Whew...we're back! What a good feeling to get Trixie home after the appt. Poor little Trix...got the thermometer up the butt...(boy does she hate anyone messing around back there!), needle in the lipoma..(didn't seem to bother her much) and the blood test. She got extra treats when we left!
So...everything looks good. Now I can call it a lipoma as that is indeed what it is. Needle aspiration showed only lipid cells and the vet feels like we have nothing to worry about but we will watch and make sure it doesn't change or become unmovable.
As for her overall check up he felt she was good...nothing out of line and not much else to say until we get the blood work results.
So of course it's that liver number I'll be waiting to hear and boy I hope it is down!
He agrees all the positives...her energy level, long walks, good poops etc..are all good indicators. Thinks her water is still a bit high...she's drinking about 24-28 oz a day. Her urine which I expertly ;) collected this morning was actually yellow..(yay!) that's good.
Hard for me to get that sample..because she will stop if she knows I'm back there when she pees!! Too funny-- I have this very low oval plastic lid to a container which I can get under her if I can sneak it back there very slowly...so got her second batch this morning. Remember I'm in the city and people are walking by checking me out :D and as if I could care, I just want to get a good sample and I'm so over what anyone would think.

Sharlene I got the ultrasound copy! Here is what it said-this was from last April..so almost 5 months ago.

gall bladder and biliary tree: normal, normal duct, normal volume, no sludge.
Liver showed: R/O hepatomegaly, hepatocellular swelling, hyperechoic, granular appearance. Hepatic and portal veins are normal. Vacuolar changes.

Adrenals:R/O Bilateral enlargement c/w PD HAC
Kidneys: Symmetrical. Normal size, echogenicity (left 4.28cm/right 4.41cm) fair architecture. mild decreased corticomedullary ratio

Spleen: normal size, shape, and echogenicty (0.94 cm width)
Bladder: normal bladder wall. Few large crystals resulting in mild echogenic dropout

Stomach and Intestines: normal wall thickness and density

So just waiting on the blood...probably back on Wednesday and he will call.
You know I'm envious of those of you who have a good relationship with your vet. I guess I don't mean "good"..maybe I should say special relationship. My vet is nice and I have confidence in his knowledge and he seems compassionate and nice to Trixie when he examines her...guess I shouldn't complain but there's just something missing. I do most of the talking, he doesn't say all that much.
I guess I feel that with all doctors lately...human docs and vets...something's missing! When I was a kid our doctors and dentists knew us so well. There was a familiarity that I don't have with any doctor or vet!
Well-- one vet in the practice who helped us through the chlostridium infection last year she seems to really "know" us, but the head guy was the Cushing expert so that's who I see now. When she sees us there she says "Oh Trixie's here" and she's very nice. I kind of miss her!!
Anyway I'm rambling-at least he knows what he's doing and the treatment is going okay, that's most important right now.
Guess it's the nature of people and animal health care now. Hard to find that personal level of care that used to be the norm.
I'll be waiting for the blood results and hoping for the best!!
Thanks everyone for being here!! :p
Barbara

[Roxee's Dad]

Our Rozee has had these lipoma's (fatty tumor's) Of course she was a bit over weight for many years. Recently they have mostly gone away as she has lost weight over the last few years. Don't know if that has anything to do with it.

I hope and pray it's the same for Trixie and just turns out to be a fatty tumor as they call them.

[molly muffin]

Oh my gosh I know exactly what you mean. When I was a kid, the whole family had the same doctor for years. Of course, you also couldn't put anything over on him either. LOL When the school said they needed a doctors note, you darn well had better be sick and not be trying to sluff off. hahhaaha

Welcome to the lipoma brigade. hahahaha You can just slide right up here next to me and Molly. :)

That is really a VERY good ultrasound report Barbara. I think that would ease my fears a great deal. I'm Really glad you got it. It could be that Trixie is a drinker. There doesn't actually seem to be anything medical to cause any increase in thirst with the cortisol being normal and her organs looking pretty good too. It can take a while for the liver numbers to respond remember, but I hope they have come down some.

You did good!!!!
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Harley PoMMom]

Sharlene I got the ultrasound copy! Here is what it said-this was from last April..so almost 5 months ago.

gall bladder and biliary tree: normal, normal duct, normal volume, no sludge.
Liver showed: R/O hepatomegaly, hepatocellular swelling, hyperechoic, granular appearance. Hepatic and portal veins are normal. Vacuolar changes.

Adrenals:R/O Bilateral enlargement c/w PD HAC
Kidneys: Symmetrical. Normal size, echogenicity (left 4.28cm/right 4.41cm) fair architecture. mild decreased corticomedullary ratio

Spleen: normal size, shape, and echogenicty (0.94 cm width)
Bladder: normal bladder wall. Few large crystals resulting in mild echogenic dropout

Stomach and Intestines: normal wall thickness and density


I am just a bit concerned with the crystals found in the bladder, did the vet mention anything about them? Overall everything else looks good!

[molly muffin]

Oh yea, I should add, that Molly's ALKP started to go up when crystals were first discovered in her, about I'm guessing 5 - 6 years ago.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Trixie]

Thank you John...can the lipomas actually go away!? Wow...didn't even think to ask that! Just figured once it was there it would be there always, but if we're lucky enough to have it fade away I would be thrilled! I'll settle with no changes too!! :D

Sharlene...is it a good ultrasound? I can't figure too much out. Maybe not as good as I wrote because I see I left out the C/W before Hepatocellular swelling/vacuolar changes
I'm not sure but does that c/w mean "concurrent with" and r/o is rule out? So-- maybe the liver explanation is not quite as good now with the c/w. The rest is right...just noticed I missed that when I looked at the report again. I guess all the other things looks pretty good then? Hopefully since treatment has started to be successful the not so good stuff is better. Hope so.

Lori- Back in April he did mention that the sono showed crystals but he didn't say anything much about it except we would watch her urine. So we did talk about the urine today as I brought in the sample. He asked a bunch of questions...and said let's see what the urinalysis shows. I asked about a culture and he asked me about her frequency etc... said he'll decide after he sees the results of the urinalysis. She does not urinate frequently anymore and has just begun to have color back in her urine, if that matters.
I'm guessing the crystals are precursor to bladder stones? That is worrisome. My other schnauzer had them but it was my mother doing all the worrying and vet visits back then. I do remember what my dog did when she had them though...straining, bleeding etc. Trixie doesn't have any of this, but if crystals are present does that mean stones are forming...can the crystals go away once they're there? Maybe I should have said I wanted the culture? Guess I can request it and bring another sample.

[Trixie]

so that I'm clear on the liver sono assesment I'm going to re-type that part. Again this was last April.

Liver R/O Hepatomegaly, Hyperechoic, Granular appearance. c/w Hepatocellular swelling/vacuolar changes

that's the corrected version.

[Harley PoMMom]

I do remember what my dog did when she had them though...straining, bleeding etc. Trixie doesn't have any of this, but if crystals are present does that mean stones are forming...can the crystals go away once they're there? Maybe I should have said I wanted the culture? Guess I can request it and bring another sample.

I don't think that all crystals turn into stones, and the crystal/stone formation needs to be diagnosed to know whether they can be dissolved.

Sometimes a vet can feel if a dog has stones forming but if not then an x-ray and/or ultrasound is needed.

Word of note: When a concentrated urine sample from a dog sits around in a cool environment crystals may form, so I would ask the vet if Trixie's urine sample sat around.

[Trixie]

Lori,
The original mention of the crystals were from an ultrasound done in April. I had today's sample in the fridge between 9am and 2pm (they recommended I keep it cold) when I brought it in....is that going to screw up the urinalysis results?

Barbara

[Harley PoMMom]

It is always best to analyze an urine sample right away but I really do not think that happens. The USG, PH, glucose, and sediment like blood, etc. are the most important things that are looked for and I don't believe that refrigeration "skews" that, actually I believe that is the protocol.

Since the crystal were seen via an ultrasound (dah me!!) then I would ask the vet what s/he thinks about this.

Overall, Trixie really did get a great ultrasound report! ;)

[Trixie]

I'm glad you think it was a good report Lori...that makes me feel better! It was from 5 months ago, I kept forgetting to get the copy even though Sharlene would remind me. Today when the file was out I remembered to get it. Even though it's 4-5 months old now I figured I post it anyway.
At the time of the sono the vet did mention they saw some crystals- but we hadn't started treatment and he said let's watch that. He didn't seem to be that concerned, so I assumed it was something that would improve once we started up the medication. Would the medication or the decrease of drinking/peeing have any affect on the crystals?
When he calls with the results of the blood work and the urinalysis I will definitely ask him about the crystals. Thanks for your input. :)

Barbara

[Harley PoMMom]

My non-cush boy, Bear, has had two operations for oxalate stone removal. For his type of stone there are no ways to dissolve them, other types such as struvite, can be dissolved with diet.

Keeping Bear hydrated is very important, ideally his urine should be diluted because this helps to deter stone formation. I end up putting water into everything he eats and he still has concentrated urine! :eek:

[Trixie]

My childhood schnauzer had multiple surgery for stones. She started getting them when she was still rather young.
Trixie's urine has been diluted for months. Just in the last couple of weeks it has finally some color, but it is far from concentrated. Hope that's a positive when crystals are involved.

[Simba's Mom]

Sending hugs and prayers that they can get Trixie back on track!!!

[Trixie]

Thanks Letti--she's actually doing pretty well. Just waiting on routine blood work and urinalysis. Hoping her liver numbers are down. All in all she's been good. :D

Barbara

[Simba's Mom]

Love to hear good news...

[Budsters Mom]

Trixie doesn't let anything get her down. ;) She's my kind of girl!

Barbara, I know you are worried, but she is really doing well! :D xxxx

[Trixie]

Hi Kathy,
Yes...Trixie's hanging in there.
You know how it is. I tell myself all the time that she's doing fine but sometimes it feels like I'm in denial and kidding myself that nothing's wrong....then in the morning she's up and ready to go and it's a new day so things feel pretty good again.
I guess it's only been a few months (5 already) with all of this and I'm starting to get more used to the new normal. She's nine and she has this crappy disease so I can't expect her to seem perfect all the time.
So the worrying comes and goes and when it comes I sign on to the board. It helps just to write about it and of course the support is unmatched and that is the best help for a case of the worries.
Feeling better to have this appt. over and once the blood results are back and hopefully good, it will be a huge relief. :rolleyes:

Barbara

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
I know exactly what you mean. It does help to post what ever you are feeling and get it out of your system. I am hoping you can get Trixie's liver values down. Other wise she seems to be doing well. Blessings
Patti

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
For what it is worth every time I collect urine off of Tipper and keep it in the refrigerator until the vet visit, it comes up with crystals. My vet told me that can happen during refrigeration. He has re-tested in his lab and she has none, so maybe if they test it in your vets lab as soon as you get it and not send it out you can get a true picture. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

hi Patti...Good to know. A few crystals were seen back in April and on the ultrasound report that I just posted...even tho it's 5 months old.

We'll see if there are still crystals present now because maybe thery're not (I hope). I did refrigerate the sample because they told me to. If crystals are still present I will let them know I chilled the sample. Of course I hope the urinalysis is normal. :)

[Trixie]

Ok...Blood work is back.
Aug. 20 Ref May 30

Total Protein 6.4 5.0-7.4 6.7
Albumin 3.7 2.7-4.4 4.0
Globulin 2.7 1.6-3.6 2.7
A/G Ratio 1.4 0.8-2.0 1.5
AST(SGOT) 33 15-66 36
ALT 173 12-118 220
ALK 1894 5-131 2123
GGTP 13 1-12 34
Total Billirbn 0.1 0.1-0.3 0.1
Urea Nitro 20 6-31 14
Creatine 1.0 0.5-1.6 0.9
BUN/Creat Ratio 20 4-27 16
Phos 4.8 2.5-6.0 3.7
Glucose 79 70-138 85
Calcium 10.7 8.9-11.4 10.9
Magnesium 1.8 1.5-1.6 1.8
Sodium 148 139-154 149
Potassium 4.7 3.6-5-5 4.5
Na/K Ratio 31 33
Chloride 111 102-120 105
Cholesterol 342 92-324 372
Triglycerides 839 29-291 578
Amylase 731 290-1125 621
Lipase 568 77-695 580
CPK 86 59-895 126

[Harley PoMMom]

With the exception of the high Triglycerides, that looks like great blood work results!! Congrats!!! ;):)

[Trixie]

I had a panic attack because Trixie seemed to have a bad itch/irritation near her genitals. I thought it was some dreaded skin ailment so I called to see if the vet could see her. It turns out it is most likely a little yeast rash and I have a topical antibiotic for it. She has stopped being bothered right away.
So while I was there he had the blood test results which I posted above.
Liver numbers down but higher still than they should be. That was all he went over with me. When I got the copy of the test out at the desk I saw the triglycerides higher than ever so I put a call in to discuss this and ask about fish oil. Forgot everything because of my panic on the skin issue.

I'll post the urine results here. He said he wants to watch this because of the protein present. I think he told me he thought the numbers on the blood work that went along with the kidneys looked okay for now. Wants to do another stim test in Sept. to see cortisol control before adding any kidney meds if they end up being needed. Ugh I think that's what he said...I was all strung out because I ran over there not expecting to and wasn't on top of my questions re these tests.

Urinalysis:
results ref
Color yellow
Appearance clear
Specific Grav 1.104 (LOW) 1.015-1.050
pH 6.0 5.5-7.0
Protein 2+ Neg

Glucose neg
ketone neg
billirubin neg
blood none
WBC none
RBC none
casts none seen
crystals none seen
bacteria none seen
squamous epithelia 0-1 0-3

[molly muffin]

I agree, the blood work is coming along nicely, however, just be aware that Schnauzer's are prone to high triglycerides. A lower fat diet might need to be considered for Trixie and is something you can discuss with your vet. Cushings can also contribute to higher triglycerides. Here is an excellent article that gives some information. Since it is going up, I probably would talk to your vet about an appropriate diet for Trixie, and maybe consider if she can see a nutritionist, (if they have one on staff).

http://www.halopets.com/pet-education/pet-articles/high-cholesterol-in-pets.html

I think over all the numbers other than that are looking pretty good and better than before, so definitely a move in the right direction. It is likely that as the cortisol levels remain at a more optimal level that the numbers will continue to get better too.

Re-evaluation to keep an eye on kidneys and the protein is always a good idea. We do the same thing. Monitoring is our friend. :)

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Trixie]

Thanks Lori,
I have a call into the vet to ask about the Triglycerides...and maybe using fish oil. I put a call into him for that question and more things to ask. I lost my cool thinking Trixie had developed a skin problem and then I couldn't think straight.
Barbara

[Trixie]

Hi Sharlene,
Thanks for the input. Yes...Trixie's been on low fat forever just because of the whole Schnauzer Lipedemia issue. She's never had it but with different gastro bouts I always wanted to be safe so we went low fat when Trixie was pretty young.
The vet did say he felt the things that are off are still very tied to the Cushings.
I still have such a case of the nerves from rushing over there in a panic. Also the topical he gave me for her itchy problem is a broad spectrum antibiotic ointment. I looked it up online and though it's an anti-fungal and other things it also has a corticosteroid in it's ingredients.

On the website for the product it says this:
Systemic absorption of mometasone furoate ointment was found to be minimal (2%) over 1 week when applied topically to dogs with intact skin.

He told me once a day for 7 days. I also plan on asking him about this because he didn't mention this having a steroid in it...I saw it when I looked it up, after I put it on her.
Do you all think I shouldn't use it???

My nerves are shot from today. I know this is not all such a big deal. When Trixie started to go a little nuts from this itch it got me so worried. I think I over reacted but just couldn't let her be so uncomfortable all night long. Now I'm worried about the ointment. UGH....it's always something!!!! :eek:

[molly muffin]

LOL Barbara it happens to us all. You should have seen me about molly at the vet last time, and her warts. Yes, warts, but don't worry, I had it blown up into full out calcium deposits, and breaking open cc (nothing is open and weeping) in my head. So, when I asked her, it was very tentative, um, can you just take a look at this and tell me what you think. :p
Vet was like, well, I think Molly has some warts. :D
Molly it turns out is getting older. Who would have thought!!! I'm sure that I am 34 and she is 2. pfffftttt
I bet Trixie will always be a bouncing puppy of joy in your heart too. I still think that over all it is good and just things to be aware of and keep an eye on.

huggers
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[molly muffin]

well if it is a yeast, then you want something that will get rid of it. I think some of the others on here would know more about it than me. In general you don't give steroids to a cushing dog, but maybe it is okay for only a few days. Lets see what the ones who have been there done that say.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[nvmybostons]

Congrats to you & Trixie, what great news!

Jen & Jigsaw

[frijole]

My Haley had cushings and also had yeast issues and was given a topical cream. It worked great. Since it is a steroid just use it as needed and just a wee bit will work so don't lather it on. When she heals cease using it unless it comes back.

Haley never had high trig however being a schnauzer I too went low fat. Challenge is you want to make sure there is good level of protein. I used food from Solid Gold - the salmon kind and it had the fish oil in it. Sometimes I'd pour some of my tablet onto it.. just be careful as it squirts and stains like heck... it hit my laundry room walls and took me forever to figure out where the spots came from and then how to remove.

You are doing great. Kim

[Trixie]

Sharlene...I turned Trixie on her back to see what was bothering her. There were a few itchy looking bumps around her genital area that clearly were driving her crazy and of course I thought it was calcium too...I guess I am always on the edge of panic with this dog! Lately it doesn't take much to get me worked into a tizzy! If they hadn't told me to come right over I may have really lost it!!
I called so fast and was across the street like a tornado...talk about cortisol running high--this time it was me! :rolleyes:
They only charged me for the ointment...I guess since I was just there on Monday and that cost plenty. I was really grateful to be spared another expense today.

Thanks Jen! I hope things continue to improve, the liver numbers still look so scary when compared to the norm. Thank goodness Trixie seems really good most of the time. :)

Barbara

[Trixie]

Thank you Kim...I really want to add fish oil to Trixie's diet. Her diet right now is fresh plain cooked white meat turkey and canned W/D. I know many don't care for the W/D ingredients as corn is added but this has always been a good food for Trixie. She had to be on it after a gastro thing years ago and it turned out to be a food that just worked for her. I wouldn't give it exclusively but with the turkey it seems to be a good balance for her. She gets plain no fat yogurt a couple times a week. Only low fat treats too. On occasion I give her small portions of canned salmon..but I hope to check with the vet and get her on some added fish oil asap.

Barbara

[frijole]

Great... you can buy the oil and give it in drops vs popping open the pills. If you go pill route remove everything from the area because you won't see the stuff go flying. ha I even had stains on my washer/dryer. (orange stains) :eek::D:D:eek::D

[Trixie]

sounds like a good suggestion Kim! Don't want smelly fish oil spurting around the house! :D

[Simba's Mom]

Hey Barbara, you sound like me, I went crazy when Sim would cough or even sneeze, cushings makes us all that way, so you are not alone forsure....sounds like Trixie is doing good, praying that continues, take care of you too, hugs

[Harley PoMMom]

Regarding the protein loss in her urine, I wouldn't get too worried about this just yet. Many, many things can cause protein to be spilled into the urine and an infection is one of them. Dogs with Cushing's are prone to this too.

Again, those blood work results looked great and you should be proud of yourself. Sending you and Trixie lots of hugs, Lori

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Barbara,
Wow! Trixie sure has a lot going on. Generally her bloodwork looked good. Poor thing, yeast infections are no fun! Hopefully it will clear up super fast. As long as she can make her regular park runs, she should be pretty happy. I think Trixie is tougher than we think.;). You are doing great Barbara keep it up!:) xxxx

[Trixie]

Just 4 weeks ago we had a really good number from the stim test-4.2, then pretty decent results from the blood work.
Was looking good...until now 2 nights in a row panting wake ups at 3am....(no storms, cool room) drinking a little more than last week and rapid breathing when at rest, seems like she's moving around during the night too.
Here we go again. Makes me want to cry. Guess another stim will have to be done in the next few weeks. So crazy expensive...I have to talk to them about the freezing of the stim agent.
Seems like during the day-like right now Trixie rests comfortably. Though I always feel like she breathes faster than she ever did before while she's napping.
I don't know...feels like the most I get from her is 3-4 controlled weeks before she breaks through again.
Nothing is terrible yet...probably will get a stim -end Sept. unless the symptoms get worse in the next week.
Meanwhile other stresses of life happen...packing my daughter to leave for soph year at college...so much stuff and a long day of driving tomorrow. Trixie will be here (hopefully resting) and my husband will come early from work but I hate leaving her. Mid week I have to sleepover at my mothers, and boy that means a no sleep night for sure.. and though my husband will be here with Trixie I cannot stand to leave her for an overnight. I have control issues for sure--I admit it. Can't wait for this week to be over.
Anyone else ever notice the rapid breathing? I see it online as a Cushing symptom. She does not seem to have labored breathing its just fast. It makes me nervous.

Barbara

[Budsters Mom]

Ahhhh Barbara,
Trixie is a stubborn little thing isn't she! She doesn't want you to get too comfortable!;):o Maybe Trixie is one of those dogs that just doesn't do too well on Vetroyl? She certainly has been a challenge to regulate. Remember the upside Barbara. She is active and happy and can walk miles. She feel good for the most part. That hasn't changed has it? I don't know enough about this stuff to really help you, so I will just send positive energy your way. Xxxxx

[Trixie]

She is a stubborn girl Kathy. I just called the vet..because I'm concerned about her blood pressure. Trish had an interesting posting today that alerted me to blood pressure/protein in urine combo so of course I freaked out right away. I only recently saw the results if Trixie's blood pressure from April when I got the ultrasound write up..it was with it. Anyway the vet was free to speak with me thank goodness :)...usually have to play phone tag for a day or two and until we speak I manifest all kinds of bad scenarios.
He put my mind at ease but we will be checking blood pressure this week. He looked everything over he's cautious but wasn't alarmed. He also said that the blood pressure test is so hard because the dogs are usually completely stressed...so yes, Trixie probably was crazed as she usually is when we are there.
He thinks maybe we're not as controlled in the Cushings dept. as we were or could be. So...yes, a stim test sooner than later. You know it's all about expenses...if I won the lottery I would be over there tomorrow for the test, even though it's only been 4 weeks. Of course that's how everyone here feels, I know.
Once I get my daughter off to school tomorrow and deal with my mother this week I'll figure out when to do the next few vet things.

He also said we should prob do a chest x-ray. Now that makes me super worried...what bad thing could we find there?...enlarged heart? Lung issues? I'm just venting all my usual worry and thinking bad thoughts. :eek: You're right though-she is active and ready to walk all the time. I try and always keep that in mind and hope she stays that way.

Barbara

[Budsters Mom]

Did he say why he feels a chest x-ray is needed. What is he looking for. Did he say?

Yes Barbara,
Get your human baby daughter back to school and do what you need for your mom first. I don't want to have to worry about you too. I am already very concerned about Patti (Tipper) xxxxx

[addy]

Hi Barbara,

Dogs can indeed have white coat syndrome. A study was done on greyhounds, which is a breed known for it, their numbers were on average 30 point lower when taken at home. Having said that, they usually will take more than one reading, sometimes from different legs and then average them together. The first time they tried to take Zoe's and forced her to lay down, she spiked to 180 then came down to 158, I think. I keep arguing with her vets that she does not have high blood pressure and thankfully, the eye vet just took a reading with her stressed out and it was again 156 or 158 which they consider borderline. He sees no evidence in her eyes, that does not mean she does not have it. When they took it after injecting her during her stim it went over 200 (you have to wonder about some of these- the only word I can think of is morons like da- what did they think it would do?)

Since Cush pups can have high BP , it is a good thing to check it, we only pay $17.00 for the test here.

We check on Zoe's because her UPC was elevated from protein in her urine. High BP can cause protein in their urine and protein in their urine can cause high BP. Not all dogs with protein in their uring will have elevated BP.:):):):):):)

It is best to have Trixie's BP checked.

[Trixie]

Kathy- About the chest x-ray...he suggested it, I suppose because I was calling about rapid breathing he wanted to check out her chest. I'm trying not to think about the chest x ray yet...going to do the blood pressure and then I'll see what next...acth and/or chest x ray...too bad the vet doesn't do bogo!!

Addy- You mentioned something that I am wondering about and it's when exactly did they do the blood pressure, because it was done the same day Trixie had her LDDS and her ultrasound. She would have been super stressed no matter what but even more so if it was in between or after the whole thing. I've got to believe it was when she arrived first thing that day-but who knows!?

There are 4 readings here all the same--230 pretty high. This was back in April. The vet just saw her last Monday. Eyes looked okay and most of the levels on the blood work were normal.

Definitely going to have it checked...I wish it would be a $17 test but I can't imagine anything at my vet costing less than $20!!! Everything is so over priced here!! I'm a little miffed he didn't do it when we went last Monday! Hard to complain about it because I did run her back over there in a panic two days later with the skin irritation and they didn't charge me for the visit--a first!! Hoping to get there at the end of the week as these next few days are up to college with my youngest and caring for my mother. They don't call it the sandwich generation for nothing do they??!! :D
As always thanks to everyone for the input!! :)

[spdd]

Just popping in to tell you I know exactly how you feel with "it's always something" scenario.

I can't be of any help to you, as you know way more then I do about this disease, but just want to let you know I care, and hoping with everything I have Trixie's issues are resolved very quickly.

[Trish]

Hi Barbara!

Sorry my post gave you a fright, but I am sure we will get Trixie's BP sorted out :D it is good you caught it!

White coat syndrome can be a problem with our pups and the stress of having their BP taken can put it up. My local vet plus the IMS have both said if a BP is usually fairly normal stress will only put it up into the 160/170 range. Which is consistent with the study Addy has quoted. Flynn's BP was like Trixie and >200 and in his case it turned out to be due to the pheochromocytoma. His was up consistently, but with a pheo it can fluctuate like with Kim's dog Annie and her's flared when the tumour was secreting adrenaline so sometimes it can be hard to catch the BP when it is high. I do see Trixie's ultrasound showed bilateral adrenal enlargement consistent with PDH, so hopefully a pheo is not the culprit here, they are fairly rare! But that is one question I would ask your vet when you go in to get this sorted out.

They do need to recheck her BP, hopefully it has come back down and those initial high ones were around the time of diagnosis and lots of testing. I would get them to do a few over a period of a few hours so she will be calmer then they can average the recordings and hopefully get an accurate result. Flynn stays the day when he gets his checked.

Also as Addy said the protein in the urine could have occurred because of high BP putting pressure on the kidneys, again it did for Flynn. I would also ask for a UPC urine test to get a better handle on the level of proteinuria and whether it needs treating (refer to my post about this yesterday!). Normal is <0.5, medication is not needed unless >2.0. By stabilising Flynn's BP we have gained better control of the protein but it could still go lower which is why his vet and I are looking at tweaking the medications. I would not be afraid of meds Barbara, if that is what they suggest, he is tolerating them really well, both BP med and also a kidney protector which is the ace inhibitor.

Cushing's dogs can have an elevated BP just because of the disease so that could well be the cause of Trixie's problem, someone just recently posted stats about this but darned if I can find that post tonight! Maybe whoever it was will spot this and steer us in the right direction.

It is good her eyes are fine, Flynny had bulging vessels also indicative of high BP, but again that has settled totally now. Her good blood tests are also reassuring, so I think it will be good for her to be tested now she is more stable than back in April, see where it is now and then we can take it from there! Hope this helps xx

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
I am so sorry you and Trixie are experiencing troubles. I know what you mean about the breathing being different, Tipper has done that. Also about the blood pressure and the eyes, it may warrant a trip to the eye Dr. as high blood pressure can result in eye problems, that you vet will never be able to detect. Tipper's was only high 2 times in a year and she has bleeding in the retinas. That being said, it could be happening at night from a tumor being active, and I am not aware of it. Tipper was also very restless and moving around constantly at nite. It is just there are so many variables we are watching out for all the time, that it makes hard. Tipper's cortisol was controlled for almost a year, and I cannot understand her situation either. If there were just more absolutes known about this disease it would be so much more helpful. I pray every nite for with my Tipper that all the babies on here get help. We will say an extra prayer for you and Trixie. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Thanks Judi and Patti...you're right..so many variables in this complicated disease. It's worrisome so much of the time.
Thank you Trish for all the excellent and easy to understand info! You didn't really scare me, your post just alerted me to the BP/protein issue which is good...knowledge is power even though it can sometimes cause alarm. The vet does think that all of Trixie's "abnormals" are attributed to Cushings...well I suppose that's obvious.
We will do another BP and see where it is now. He suspects that even though the acth number from July was good at 4.2 that we still do not have optimum control on her level. She is now on 14mg 2x a day, so it's not like we're at a crazy dose. I see an increase in the future. We'll see after we test again.
It was the rapid breathing that got me this week...but here she is sleeping next to me on the couch and breathing is pretty much normal and that's because she had her medication about 4 hours ago, so it's doing good for her right now.
Just this morning I thought she was acting like she wasn't feeling well and then boom she attacked some toys and growled at me to play with her. I try to lighten up but this disease creates so many doubts all the time!!
Soon Trixie be taking cover under the table...the sky has darkened and thunder storms are rolling in. :eek: Hope they blow over quickly.
I have to leave her in a couple hours to go take care of my mother tonight-an overnight stay which is not going to be easy...my husband and older daughter will be here with Trixie, so she's in good hands. I'll have to give up control for the night...not a good situation for the control freak that I am! :eek:
Will look forward to getting back home to Trixie in the morning but I know she'll be fine. :rolleyes:

Barbara

[Boriss McCall]

It is so easy to let the doubts & worry creep in. I hate that the most.
But, you are doing such a good job with Trixie. She has the best mama in the whole world.
I am like you when I have to be gone during Boriss's feeding or pill hours I am texting my husband to make sure he did everything right. It is hard to let go when we are the ones that take so much care everyday.

[molly muffin]

Barbara you really are doing wonderful! You are very on top of what is going on with Trixie and you can just tell, when something is off.
Hope things go okay tonight with your mom. Of course there would be a thunderstorm tonight, doesn't that just figure. I'm sure that Trixie will be fine with your husband and daughter though.
Usually Molly does better with my husband because he isn't constantly fretting about her panting too much or this and that, so she will just lay down next to him and sleep through them. I do hate that she is so scared of the thunderstorms though.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Trixie]

Thanks Amy and Sharlene for the great support!!
So-- wouldn't you know it....things at my mother's went as smoothly as they could go, but this morning my husband texted me that Trixie was up at 3am needing to go out and had the runs. Earlier on the 10:30pm walk things were just fine but she had something go on during the night.
He said that this morning the same thing...liquid poop and one throw up. I caught my daughter before she left for work and had her give Trixie a metronidazole (1/4 tab) which I have on hand.
Of course I could not wait to get home and check her out. She popped out of her bed jumped up on the couch to greet me and generally seems fine. Plenty of energy and there were no messes in the house when I got in.
So...the dilemma was to give the Vetoryl or not? I am pretty sure this is a garden variety tummy upset but I decided not to give the morning dose. I'm worried however that we are going to have a crazy day of drinking and panting until I can give the 10pm dose.
Any opinions?? Better safe than sorry, right?
So far this week Trixie's symptoms have been creeping up so I really don't think she's getting too much medication but since I wasn't here to see just how she was acting I thought I would withhold the med.
I'm so worried about the day though...she's already been panting.
Would it help to maybe give her a 4mg capsule just to get through til 10pm? Or is that a stupid move??
Ugh. :mad:
Barbara

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
I am so sorry your Trixie is having problems. With the runs and the vomit, I would definitely withhold the Vetoryl if it were me. I know it is hard to see the panting etc. They have Tipper on a split now of 10mg in the morning and 10mg in the evening. I am noticing some panting today, but it is really humid out and hard to tell what it is from exactly. I am keeping a close watch on her and writing it all in her diary. This is such a difficult disease to manage, as it seems like you are always waiting for the second shoe to drop. I would wait on the Vetoryl as one time I thought Tipper's number was going to be high as she exhibited some symptoms, and instead it was low. Nothing ever seems straight forward or classic text book with this disease, it can throw real curve balls at you. I hope you find a resolution, as I know you worry like me and it is hard to get it off your mind. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Thanks Patti--yes I figured I would not give the medication this morning. Had to play it safe, even though my gut feeling is it's just a tummy thing.
An hour ago I gave her plain white rice--I made little balls with it, like sushi without the fish. :D Otherwise the rice gets all caught in her schnauzer beard! ;) She gobbled it up and seems ok now. I will see how she does all day. I will give her 10pm dose if she stays ok all day and has no signs of lethargy. She's napping now..I'm praying her symptoms don't run amok without her med today!

B.

[addy]

At this point you might as well wait to give the dose tonight if she continues to seem ok. I cant tell you how many times I thought I would have to withhold the dose for Zoe and then 30 minutes later she would be doing hop, hop bark for breakfast or dinner, looking at me like "Mom, come on, I'm fine". But vomit or loose stools, for sure I would not give the dose. I think you did the right thing.:):)

[Trixie]

Thank you Addy. Oh..isn't it always something!!?? I gave up control for one night-and look what happened!! :D Just kidding..(kinda) my husband is a great with Trixie but darn it,...this is just the kind of thing that worries me when I have to be somewhere else.

So Trixie has eaten, (just sticky rice) had water and still napping.
The last incident..not sure if it was the throwing up or the runs...was at 8am and nothing since, so that's good. We've had times when she needs to go every hour, so 6 hours now with nothing.
Things are good and probably because of the metronidazole which always seems to help immediately for Trixie. I also gave her a Pepcid a/c when she ate at 11am. So far, so good. It might get all Cushings-like this evening, but who knows maybe not...we'll see what happens. As always I'm left to wonder what started the tummy upset in the first place, but I know that question is usually left unanswered. Hope it's nothing.
I wish I had a vet in my family!!! ;)

Barbara

[doxiesrock912]

Barbara,

I hope that Trixie continues to improve!

[molly muffin]

Oh my gosh. Trixie!

I think Addy is spot on. Withhold if the runs or vomiting and then you can always give later when things are better.

You're a great mom

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Trixie]

So where else can I post a detailed poop report without reservation but here!!?
Trixie seemed pretty good all day. Funny--I do not notice any escalating symptoms today w/o the morning dose. We just got back from an hour walk. Trixie dragged me right to the pet supply store (she's hungry)...I told her- no way, and we kept on walking. She has her usual big appetite but I'm being careful.
So, she stopped for one small poop. No straining, but a small bit of orangey/yellowish gelatinous goop. Not watery, but not easy to pick up either, it was only a small amount....I've seen worse.. and (whew) no blood. So, there you have it...as my daughter would say "too much information"...but I know for here it's okay to be detailed!!

I'm not sure what to do and I still have a number of hours before the dose would be due. She's had rice earlier and some plain dry no fat treats a little while ago and no further vomiting at all today. My husband says she vomited only a little bile this morning.
Last night I told him to skip her denamarin and pepcid ac that I give her a couple hours after her nightime vetoryl dose. Just didn't want him to have to mess with too many medicines. She usually has them both each night. Could not having those two things mess with her system that much? Somehow I don't think so.

I'm still on the fence on tonight's dose. Guess I'll see how she is the rest of the evening. Her supper will be rice again and maybe a small bit of w/d. Also going to give another 1/4 tab of the metronidazole at the 12 hour mark.
She has energy and she's hungry but if I don't see a lot of outward symptoms tonight I may wait until tomorrow's 10am dose to start vetoryl again since she still had a little bad poop at 4pm.
UGH...hate this. :confused: Some smart scientist should come up with some easy way to test cortisol levels in dogs at home!! I don't think she's too low but don't worry I'm still staying with "better safe than sorry" school of thought. :rolleyes:

[Budsters Mom]

I would personally skip tonight's Trilo dose. Trixie has not stabilized as of yet. Having said that, you don't give it til 10 PM., so she could be much better by then. I would probably still skip it anyway since Trixie is still eating white rice and is not even on her regular food. You know Trixie best though. Finger's and paws crossed for good poops tomorrow!:D

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Just checking in to see how Trixie is? Did you give the Vetoryl last nite? I know when I used to give Tipper Pepcid it would not sit well with her and gave her troubles. Some one else on here told me that about their dog too, I just can't think who off hand. How long have you given the Pepcid? I hope things have turned around, as I know this is a worry to you. How are the poops this morning? Did she eat rice or her regular food this morning? Blessings
Patti

[spdd]

Hi.. been reading your last few posts and wondering how Trixie is doing today? Your poop description isn't foreign to me at all. Seen the same thing myself.

Hope today is a great day for you.

[addy]

Hope the night was uneventful and today Trixie is doing well again.

[labblab]

I'm hoping Trixie is back to normal again, too!! If not (and I hate to tell you this right before a long holiday weekend), I would feel a bit worried about the combination of vomiting, diarrhea, and bright orange/yellow gelatinous poop. The times when I've seen that combination in my own dog (non-Cushpup) was when she was having pancreatitis attacks :(. I just Googled "orange poop," and it looks as though it can be associated with GI upsets in general as well as liver/pancreas issues. So it may not mean anything more than a transitory intestinal upset. But just wanted to mention my own experience, because Peg otherwise didn't seem particularly ill at all. Just some barfing and that shocking neon goopy poop. We were all really surprised (including our vet) when her special pancreatic lipase test came back really elevated.

The basic cure for us was an extended time period (about two weeks) of very bland food (mushy white rice and ground chicken breast) before transitioning to a commercial lowfat diet. And nothing else to eat -- no treats and especially nothing at all fatty. As I say, hopefully Trixie is doing well this morning and there is no longer any issue. But I just wanted to mention our experience, for better or worse...:o

Marianne

[molly muffin]

Hi Barbara, checking in on you and Trixie today. Hope things have cleared up a bit.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Trixie]

Hi Marianne,
Yes...you are right. I thought the exact same thing about the orange and the icky gel stuff, even though it was just a little, a pancreatic issue was what I was worried about right away, though I've seen her way sicker with gastro stuff so I wasn't in a huge panic yet. I googled the poop color too...liver/pancreas came up on the search.

Here's the good news...we had solid poops today, no gel or mucous and no weird colors either. They did run a pancreatic panel on Trixie a few months ago and she was ok..though that was awhile ago now.
We stayed on plain white rice yesterday and a tiny bit of w/d prescription diet along with white rice this morning.
There was never any more vomiting except for the one early morning bile spit up yesterday.
Trixie has been eating low fat everything for years, since she was 3. Her food, her treats...everything low fat...the lowest I can find. I look for veg type snacks but she can't have carrots...they seem to have too much sugar for her I think...she gets sick from carrot.
Because of schnauzers being prone to lipase and pancreatic trouble we decided long ago after a bad gastro bout to go low fat with her.
Until Cushings she was in excellent shape, she had perfect trim body and low weight and looked like a puppy...her average for years was about 11-12 pounds. Now she weighs 17lbs. I have been trying to give her slightly less food on her plate in hopes that she could get back down to 15 at least.
She seems to be doing fine now. She had an hour walk in the park, breakfast and her 10am dose of Vetoryl. I also gave her another 1/4 tab of metronidazole and will give another tonight...just to be sure.
So for now it looks like we're in the clear.
Thanks for looking out...it's always good to be alerted to possible problems...especially on a holiday weekend!! :) I always appreciate the heads up.

Barbara

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Glad to hear Trixie is doing better and no more bad poops. I think you virtually have to keep these dogs on low fat to prevent pancreatitis and their weight is hard to manage. I think this must do something to their metabolism in slowing it down too. Tipper was always 16.7 lbs never changed all these years. Now she is between 17.5 and 18 which is not good because of her back legs, but she only gets 3/4 of a cup of dog food a day with some small pieces of chicken. That is not a lot of food, especially as she still exercises. So she should not be gaining weight. Are you doing anything for Labor Day weekend? I will be glad for cooler weather and no storms. Tipper has been through the mill with all this. Glad you mentioned about the orange colored poop. I did not know that was a sign of pancreatitis. Like Addy said this is the best place to learn, read and get help, it is truly a miracle to us. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Great to hear that there hasn't been any more vomiting and the poops are more normal. Good start to the long weekend!
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Trixie]

Thanks Sharlene and Patti...I'm grateful Trixie's system has made the turn around quickly. These poor pups have weight gain on top of everything else. I try not to deny Trixie food when she gives me that look...so I use low fat kibble and Charlie Bear treats that are tiny and a bunch of them only have a few calories, Trixie feels like she's getting something when I have a handful.

I wish I could say I'm doing something great for Labor Day weekend Patti but unfortunately I'm not. I'm not complaining though....we're going out to dinner tonight and tomorrow is mostly a free day-we'll take Trixie to Central Park first thing.
Sunday I have to care for my mother...that's the same every week for me and this wkend I get to add Monday as well since my mother's homecare aide will have the day off. She would probably work Monday if I asked her too but I think she deserves and needs 2 days in a row which she rarely gets. Without her I'm toast so I try and do whatever I can to give her time when it's possible. It's hard work caring for a 93 yr old with Parkinsons. Her dementia is getting more pronounced, especially at night. Anyway- that's my Sunday and Monday...just wish my mother lived here in the city. If I had an extra bedroom and bathrm I would move her here with us in a second. I won't even get into the burden of dealing with a house at this point. I hate driving out there every Sunday and then back Sunday night but what can you do? It's not far but it's a drag. I'm used to it but I don't look forward to it.
I'll be sipping a glass of wine later--or some sangria maybe :D trying not to dwell on what I can't change right now and happy that Trixie is not still having the tummy problem anymore.
I have to be thankful for the little things...or big things as the case may be!
How about all of you? Any fun plans for the end of summer-even though it will be plenty hot here in Sept. it always is!
Maybe you will be eating some of the apple pies you made Patti! yum! Whatever everyone is doing I hope you all enjoy your free time and that all the pups are feeling fine too!! :)

Barbara ;)

[Trish]

HI Barbara
Glad things have turned around for the better with Trixie!! With that good news I will join you for the wine/sangria a bit later *clink clink* No holiday weekend here though... :rolleyes: Hope all goes good looking after your Mom, that is such a challenge looking after elderly parents as well as all the rest of things going on in life, but like you I would be there for them in a shot!! Dad is having his second colonoscopy and polypectomy on Monday, my sister has taken Mum on a trip for a few days so I will be staying around at his house too to make sure all goes well for him. I am lucky I can take Flynn, its his second home so he is very relaxed there. Hope you all have a lovely weekend :) xxx

[addy]

We have Harley Davidson's 110 Anniversary Motorcycle Bash for 4-5 days. Free concerts at the lakefront, biker parties all over town and a motorcycle parade tomorrow. It is quite the to do and people have flown in from all over the world. I was hoping to go to an art fair tomorrow but with the parade, I dont think I can get to it without a major headache:(

Did I tell you my hubby grew up in NYC and his sister still lives there.

I am glad to hear Trixie is feeling better. Make sure to do something fun this weekend. We had pool day today it was 90 here today again, so hard for Zoe.

[Budsters Mom]

Whew! So glad that Trixie has sprung back so quickly. I am an expect on poop and it's not supposed to be orange! :D:D She's a tough little girl that's for sure. She is amazing, still taking those long park walks every day! I've never been to Central Park but in my mind it is beautiful!

As far as dealing with seniors. We do what we have to do. My folks are quite the challenge at times also.

I don't want to think about returning to work, even though I adore the kids. It will be so strange not rushing home to Buddy, but having Rosie waiting instead. I wish I had one more week to be home while she recovers, but regretfully I don't.

Try to find at least something to enjoy doing during your holiday weekend. Central Park sounds wonderful for tomorrow. :) xxxx

[Trixie]

Hey Trish did you get a good sip!! Haha, we actually went to a Belgian restaurant so they didn't have sangria! :eek: They have lots of beer but I'm not a fan. Most places around here have sangria in the summer...big vats of red or white loaded with fruit! I'll get one tomorrow night for sure. Anyway red wine had to do...so cheers Trish. :D

Addy...I can only imagine how many people come to the Harley Davidson Bash! I know those are some ardent fans and on a holiday weekend they are probably all ready to be there and party big time!
So where is your husband from? Right here in Manhattan or one of the nearby suburbs? I grew up out on Long Island but have lived in the city for almost 40 years now!! Yikes am I that old already! :eek: How about your sister in law...where is she located?
I hope it cools off some for Zoe. Trixie can't take the heat at all either...come to think of it neither can I! :rolleyes:
I hope maybe that you can make your way through the motorcycle Mamas (and Papas) and get to the Art Show. Enjoy whatever you end up doing. :D

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Just checking in to see how Trixie is today. Is it possible for you to get someone to check her blood pressure weekly? It seriously needs to come down from 200. Hope you both have a nice long weekend, and that this heat and humidity goes away for good. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Thank you Kathy...Trixie is a tough little terrier..like all these Cushings pups...they put up with a lot the poor things! It will be a hard transition for you getting back to school and I'm sure your daily routine will remind you of Buddy. Having Rosie waiting there for you will be something sweet for the end of your work day.

Patti,
I am going to get Trixie's BP done this week. The rapid breathing has calmed down quite a bit. She doesn't seem to have too many problems right now...well, our bad poops of this week, though it was really just one day and she is completely normal now. My husband and daughter think her bad tummy was because I was gone at my mothers overnight. I'm not so sure..but it will remain a mystery and thankfully now she's just fine. She was not restless last night and seems to be doing really well today...hope that continues!
Barbara

[Simba's Mom]

Sending hugs and prayers for Trixie and you too, glad her tummy is getting back on track....

[Budsters Mom]

I hope all go well with your mom this weekend. Two days in a row is tough! I guess Trixie is staying home with dad. Anyone who texts poop reports in a keeper!;):D You can tell him I said that!xxxxxx

[Trixie]

Thank you Letti. Today was a good day. :) Not too much drinking or panting...but Trixie is always hungry.
Well Kathy...not exactly...my husband doesn't want to stay home alone both days so he and Trixie will come tomorrow and stay home Monday.
When she's out there Trixie always does a lot of drinking, eating, panting...etc. :rolleyes: as you know. Just more hyper in general. I'm hoping maybe she'll surprise me and it won't be as bad as I have come to expect. At least on Monday she can stay here and chill out...thunder storms forecast for both days but worse on Monday. Trying my best to take "symptoms" in stride...guess I'm getting used to it a little more.

Barbara

[Trish]

Hi Trixie
I am watching the US OPen as I type this and no storms at the moment (I think my fave Roger is about to lose :mad:), but a few big looking clouds up there!! Hope she has been ok while you have been at your Mom's and you have a good week and the BP checkup goes good! xx

[Tina]

Hi Barbara,
I hope things went well at your Mom's and that Trixie did ok while you were gone. I totally understand how you don't want to be away from her, even if your husband is reliable. I am the same way. Jasper is scared of storms also, and we had a wicked one overnight Saturday night. I hope that didn't head your way. I think I read that Trixie has high cholesterol? Jasper has that too, and high triglycerides. The fish oil he takes really helps, but it always runs high. It is definitely a Schnauzer thing. I hope my little one doesn't end up with it. She looks a lot like Trixie! :D

Thanks for your kind words on our thread, I really appreciate it. I was pretty panicky for a bit, couldn't help but think about what happened last year. He seems to be stabilizing now, hopefully it will continue.

Hugs,
Tina and Jasper xo

[goldengirl88]

Hi Barbara:
Just checking to see how Trixie did without you. You know a lot of the Cush dogs have high cholesterol and Triglycerides. Tipper's triglycerides are really high too. Cooler here today and no storms for a while!! Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Back from the long...(and I mean looong) weekend. Trixie spent Sunday at my mother's with us but yesterday she stayed home with my husband, and I went out on my own.
Trixie's doing okay. Often I have such a hard time figuring her out. I'm always watching her and trying to tell if she's controlled or not...if she has too much medication or not enough? Sometimes she seems really good and other times symptoms are there...or are they?? This is the second guessing I am constantly doing.
Will be planning to do another acth in a couple weeks. Wish it wasn't so expensive to test, I would do one every 3 weeks if I could.

Trixie was her usual hyper, ravenous self out at my mothers house on Sunday, but she did okay I guess. Not too much crazy drinking but she is always on the hunt for food there. Panted in the car on the way home. That panting can really unnerve me sometimes.
I am now very concerned about bringing her to my mothers house because my mother is having trouble swallowing--a Parkinson's issue..and I found one of my mother's pills under her leg in her chair. I just about freaked out with panic...imagine if that pill made it on to the floor!!? Not sure if Trixie would ever eat a pill as she doesn't like them but who knows!? Meds my mother takes could kill the dog I'm sure. So from now on...I have to make my mother open her mouth to be sure the pill/s are down! I should have done this anyway...no matter if the dog is there or not. Lesson learned and thankfully before anything bad happened to my mother or Trixie. :(
I also will probably have my husband and Trixie stay home the next few weeks while I recover from even thinking about what could have been.
Between my mother and the dog my nerves are shot. :(
Barbara

[Harley PoMMom]

Between my mother and the dog my nerves are shot. :(
Barbara

Oh my Barbara, you do have a lot on your plate right now. :( Hopefully you can find a way to de-stress. Remember we are always here for you too.

Sending tons of loving and soothing hugs, Lori

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
So sorry to hear you are worried about Trixie. You sure dodged the bullet with that pill of your mothers. About 3 years ago I had a house guest for a few days. They dropped a stick of sugarless gum on the bedroom floor. The kind that kills animals!! Thank God I found it as I know one of the cats would have eaten it. That is a scary thought so I know how you felt with the pill. Tipper has been panting some also, and it does get my nerves going also. It is so hard to see them go thru all this. You have a lot of situations at one time. That is usually my problem too. Hope it all works out and Trixie stays controlled on her meds. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Barbara,
You definitely have your hands full.
I'd pretty much disregard the panting at your mom's house that Trixie does, as a different environment, excitement of going somewhere in the car and then just being there can contribute to panting episodes.
Gosh, your poor mom and poor you too. It's so hard sometimes to try and deal with all the things that crop up with a serious disease and just the worry in general can drive a person crazy.
I use to have panic attacks when my dad had Alzheimers and I was so far away, but the only one authorized to make medical decisions. I'd start doing the what if's and what next and what should's all over the place and then run outside crying and call my sister, who was even further away than myself.
It's not easy and then to worry about Trixie too. *sigh*
I think Trixie Sounds like she is doing pretty good. I wouldn't worry about whether you'll have to adjust the dosage up until the ACTH is done and over with. If you have to, you will, if you don't, then yahoo..good news. :)
I know it is easy to say don't worry and we all do it anyway. LOL
Hang in there though. I think you are doing a terrific job.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[addy]

Oh sweetie, I can so relate, I'm in the same place. Big hugs

and I have 3 words for you

Pandora Golden Oldies:D:D:D:D:D

No kidding, just put on Pandora radio and tune in to Golden Oldies. Sing along and dance. My pups get really excited when we listen to the radio and I sing and dance and we forget all our worries in no time:):)

[Trixie]

Addy!! SO funny you mention Pandora oldies, because on the way home in the car last night I listened to Sirius channel 6---The 60's on 6. Loved it...Beatles, Simon and Garfunkel, Motown, it was great. I switch around and like a lot of different music but I was a kid when I first heard these songs so it felt great listening to them...feeling carefree for a little while at least!!
I know you have the same stuff going on in your life. So many friends I know are also in the same situation...so I know I'm not alone in this. It just gets exhausting sometimes.

You're right Sharlene...all bets are off for Trixie while at my mothers. Sometimes it's better for me not to have her there...then I'm just dealing with my mother, and actually sometimes when I'm there alone I can put Cushings to the back burner for the day.

Thanks to everyone for all the understanding, I'm much better tonight after a decompression day at home!!

Barbara :)

[Tina]

Hugs Barbara, sorry your weekend was so stressful. It is so hard caring for elderly family members, I totally understand. My 98 yr old grandmother is in assisted living here, and I am the only family in town. She does pretty well for the most part, but sometimes she goes through cycles where she ends up in the ER or hospitalized time after time. Between all of Jasper's issues and working full time plus, it can get almost impossible to manage by myself when those episodes happen. My Mom lives in Texas and had some of her own health issues a few months back. I thought I was going to lose it when all that was going on! Glad you are feeling better after a day at home to relax.

Just a thought related to your Mom - can her meds be crushed and put in applesauce or pudding? That way you minimize any choking risk, and also know the meds went down. And no pills finding their way to the floor! This could be an option if her meds aren't time released.

Tina and Jasper

[Trish]

I think you are right about taking your mind off the doggie for a while, I might curse work fairly regularly, I love my job really but you know what I mean. At least while I am there my mind is off Flynn and other family stressors for a while and I think that is good for me. Hard to leave them while they are a bit under the weather though. But I do think it is good to have your mind occupied by something else for a while as it does give you a little break. Hope you have recovered from the weekend and Trixie is doing good! xx

[Trixie]

Hi Tina and Trish,
Yes, Tina...we are already on the applesauce route with my mother's pills but a few of them cannot be crushed up as they are time release drugs. If she was in her right mind she would mention that she didn't swallow it but her dementia has gotten to the point where she doesn't even realize it...finds a pill in her mouth and just puts it where ever! Now I know I must check her mouth completely to see if the pills go down.
Wow..your grandmother is 98, that's pretty amazing. My mom is 93 and has gone downhill significantly since May. We have been fortunate enough to keep her in her home with a great home aide but when she's on her day off I'm the Sunday caregiver-- going on almost 3 years now since my father died at 91.

Trish, It's true that getting at least one of the worries off your mind for a day isn't so bad. If I go to my mother's without my husband and Trixie, I get a little break from watching Trixie's every move and that's probably a good thing at least one day out of the week!! Trixie's doing okay...it's my own worries that keep me constantly checking her out. I'm trying to lighten up!! :D

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Barbara,
Yes, I have seniors with pills too and it's downright terrifying!:eek::eek:

You are doing a great job with your mom Barbara. I know that it's really hard but deep down she knows that you love her. Remember Trixie is in great hands with that hubby of yours and it does sound like she is doing pretty well. That is something really to be thankful for. :pI love the fact that you were vegging out on the oldies on the way home. That's real music as far as I'm concerned, but I'm dating myself!;):D

Hang in there you're doing great!:) xxxx

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Just wondering how you and Trixie are holding up? Hope you are enjoying the cooler weather that we have now. This is a great time to walk the dog! Blessings
Patti

[Squirt's Mom]

My mom held a degree in Pharmacy, among others, and as she aged she developed Alzheimer's. She started refusing to take meds she had taken for years because they didn't exist and she knew the doctors and nurses were just giving her candy to fool her but she was much too smart for that! So I told her that yes, they were trying to fool her with the candy but that this was special candy full of vitamins. If she would swallow this candy I would make sure they wouldn't give her the awful oatmeal for breakfast. She took all but one gladly. That one was a blood thinner and she said she didn't bleed any more so she didn't need that one at all. She got it in a drink of coke at nite with her night time candy. :p Her taste buds had obviously left the building too. :D

[Trixie]

Patti-- I was thinking of you this morning when I left the house and it was 57 degrees!! What a great walk we had...I actually needed a light jacket! Trixie was loving it.
We just came in from an afternoon walk and it's still lovely and cool outside. Wish it would stay this way!! I know we usually still get some pretty warm days in Sept. though.

Kathy & Leslie,
The medications for seniors is quite an issue. So many doses for my mother. Her issue is not refusing to take them but swallowing problems due to Parksinsons. I'm still not over that pill under my mother's leg the other day. I think I will insist my husband stay home with Trixie this weekend until I get over it..if I do!
Leslie...you mentioned the taste buds and yes!! I have noticed that my mother has lost probably much of her senses of taste and smell. She will put so much sugar in coffee and on cereal and say it has no flavor. Ugh it's terrible to see all these things that diminish someone's quality of life. It's also why she's not eating very much anymore...the difficulty in swallowing and not even being able to taste well would put a damper on actually eating! We're doing protein shakes, ensure and the like..it's one hurdle after another at this point.

Meanwhile....Trixie had a whole lotta poops this morning. No diarrhea but just more than usual and after the first load it was a bit soft. We just came in from a walk and we had some more on the soft side, and again she stopped 3 times doing them. No other issues and good appetite but this always concerns me. Think I will use sticky rice and w/d tonight, and maybe a metridonazole too. Why is it always something??

Barbara

[Trish]

HI Barbara

I see that your weather looked nice, I have had the tennis on while doing the Saturday morning cleanup and Serena's dress was blowing and they mentioned it was cooler, so yay for that!! Glad Trixie enjoyed her walk and she just wants to join the poopy club we have had going this week!! Seems to be catching! You are so onto it though and I bet it clears up quick smart. I am getting all Flynn's blankets in the wash and have tossed them all outside to give them a good shake and an air in the sun being going in the washing machine, he has made a nest in the middle of them and is sunbathing :D xx Little does he know he is getting a wash himself before too much longer :eek::D

[goldengirl88]

Hi Barbara:
Yes we are having cooler weather, it was 42 here this morning and we love it. Tipper feels so much better. She actually stayed out on the porch with me yesterday for a good half hour. it was cool enough for her to sun bathe which she loves. She did not even get hot. The cooler weather is so much better for Cush dogs. I bet Trixie is enjoying her walks more since it is cooler. I hate doing another ACTH on Tipper since she just had one not long ago, but I will not adjust her Vetoryl without one. I know she is not controlled. Last nite all she wanted was more food. This constant battle takes it's toll on you. Hope you and Trixie enjoy a good weekend. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Another day of perfect weather....cool mornings are the best for Cush dogs!! Trixie actually ran in a dog chase this morning! She used to do this everyday until she was about 7-8 years old, but since then hasn't really done much chasing.
It was cool and breezy this morning and we had her out and off leash for almost 2 hours. She wasn't even panting!! It was great seeing her chasing after some border terriers that were going nuts...we couldn't believe it. She didn't stay in it for too long but it just so much fun to see her all frisky again.
Poops were good today too! Yay for cool weather!! I'm sure we'll have some warmer days ahead but we're enjoying this for now!
Yes, Trish it's great weather for the U.S. Open...I have it on now and I'm sure everyone is loving a perfect breezy Saturday!
Hope all the pups are doing well and enjoying some time outdoors! :D

Barbara

[Trish]

Yay for a nice day, it is here too albeit windy. But warm enough :) We are off out for a family lunch for Father's Day. My Mum and sister were away last Sunday which was the actual day and I could not even give Dad a tasty treat as he was on bowel prep for his colonoscopy so we are off to a country pub to treat him :)

I am flicking between the US Open and the America's Cup sailing in San Francisco with our NZ boat doing pretty well and hopefully about to win race 2! The harbour looks absolutely stunning with the big catamaran's racing, considering we are an island nation sailing is one sport we are actually good at as most of us grow up around the ocean :D

Glad to hear Trixie has checked out of the poopy motel!! Hopefully the rest of the pups will have good reports today too :D

[addy]

Hope poos are good in NYC:):):):):):)

I could not believe the crowd at the U.S. Open. Hubby is an avid fan si I watched it for a bit with him. Made me miss NYV, it has been so long since I visited. I used to love to walk over to the Plaza (when it was still a hotel only) and stand in front, taking it all in, the horses and carriages waiting at the entrance to Central Park, the people, the commotion, I love the commotion. Whenever we would visit my sister-in-law, it was the first placed I headed to. Ahhh- great memories.:):):)

Hope you are still enjoying your cool snap, ours is to come through today but then back to ninety mid week!!!!:eek::eek::eek:



Happy Sunday, tickles to Trixie

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Well tomorrow Tipper will get her ACTH. I am not looking forward to it as she has not been herself lately. It just kills me to put her thru this, but I need to know where her numbers are as she is experiencing so many symptoms. It is cooler here this morning so it is easier on Tipper. Hope it is cool there and you and Trixie enjoy a good walk. How is she doing with the panting. I tried giving Tipper nuggets of her dog food for treats to keep her weight down, she just wants more and more, and she can really be persistent. She will not let you alone when she wants food. I cannot wait to get this back under control it has been horrible, and it makes me cry watching her go thru this. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Haha Addy...Poops are pretty good in NY today!! :D I never want to jinx things but so far so good today.
The Grand Army Plaza is such an iconic NYC place!! I like it there too...right by the Plaza and the entrance to the park. When I worked that is where my office was...I looked toward the other side near 57th Street though. It was a great location..always felt special to be right there in the midst of all the action!
Yes...enjoying the cool breezes so much!! Here too....back in the 90's starting tomorrow...ugh..I hate that forecast! It's going to be closed windows and back in the A/C by tomorrow afternoon. :mad:

Trish- New Zealand is doing great in the America's Cup!! You guys are dominating!! I hear the US team cheated!!?? I'll have to read up and see what's going on there. I'm not sure it's been covered much on TV here...I wonder why not??

Patti-Trixie's panting seems to be a lot better...and also the rapid breathing is gone for the most part, thank goodness. Trixie will sometimes pant a bit starting at about 9:30pm, before her nightime dose.

All Trixie's symptoms are better lately...nothing is back to 100% normal or pre-cushings but all is better so I'll be happy with that. It may never be 100% and that's okay as long as she is doing well. Drinking is more than what it was but way better than the worst. After she has the morning dose at 10am she won't drink until close to 3pm. Her weight is now about 17lbs. she drinks about 24-26oz from morning until bedtime around midnight...so about 3 cups. I don't think that's too excessive as she drinks about 7oz after the long morning walk. I guess it's more than what it should be...but it's not a crazy amount, right???
Her urine still tends to look dilute, but sometimes it has more color. She's down to one extra time out to pee, instead of peeing every 2-3 hours at the height of bad symptoms. She pees a ton of times (marking) on the morning park walk...then she doesn't need to go out again until 4-5pm..so that's pretty good!
The pot belly and bloating is also much better but still there a little bit.
So I'm grateful for all this..the medication seems to be working well for Trixie. :)
That's my update. I think I will think about an acth before this month is over...or if things stay this good, maybe beginning of October.

[molly muffin]

Good updates! Firm poop all around. Okay, not here, but everywhere else is firmer and I have hopes. ROFL!!

Cool here today, but a 10 degree jump for tomorrow, with a horrid heat index. YOWSER!

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[goldengirl88]

Barbara;
I am glad things are looking up for Trixie, I know what a worry that is when they seem uncontrolled. Today we got up to high heat and humidity. Tipper only walked once very slowly, and that will be it for the day. The air conditioner was on already this morning and that is not a good sign! Hope Trixie is able to get out before it gets too bad out. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Yes Patti, hot and humid here too. Trixie had her walk but now she's inside with the a/c on. Guess summer is not over yet! :mad:

[addy]

We had the house so cold for Zoe last night, I thought I was going to need my winter boots:rolleyes::rolleyes:

90 again here today:(:(:(:(:(

[Trixie]

Oh Addy...me too, I've got it pretty cold in here!! Came in from our walk this morning and even though the actual temp is not that hot yet the humidity made it feel that way so right away I cranked up the a/c for Trixie--and for me too.
I think subconsciously I take on whatever I feel Trixie is going through...I tend to do this with my kids too! So, if Trixie is panting-I feel hot, if she is throwing up- I feel nauseous, if she's restless, I can't sleep! :rolleyes:
This morning my daughter's foot starting hurting for no apparent reason..she's ok now but of course we always need a little drama first thing in the morning :eek:--so she goes off and while I'm walking with Trixie I begin to think my foot is hurting too!! Power of suggestion? Or do I try to take on everyone's maladies so they won't have any??-If only that would work!!! ;) Who knows?? I think it must be a mom thing!! :)

Barbara

[goldengirl88]

Hi Barbara:
Yes the last meal for the day for Tipper is 2:pm. She eats at 6:00 am at 7:00 am she gets her Vetoryl. At 10:30 she gets supplements and Ursidiol and lunch. She eats her last mini meal at 2:00 pm and at 6pm she gets her snack and Vetoryl. She is usually sleeping by 8-9 o'clock. So she does get something substantial at 6:00pm but I gave her the Vetoryl yesterday at the last feeding at 2:00pm to see if that would help with the hunger. So she eats a total of 4x a day. My goodness she gained 4 ounces from all the xtra nuggets. Have to cut her back now, her legs will never take all this. Glad to hear you and Trixie are in the AC. Blessings
Patti

[addy]

think it must be a mom thing!!

Oh your post made me laugh, thank you for that after a crazy work day:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

What we dont do for our kids and pups;););) Now dont go taking on any poo issues:eek::eek::eek::eek:

I know I will probably get censored again for that comment:p:p:p:p

Sputter sputter:D:D:D:D

[molly muffin]

ROFL! Barbara and Abby you are both cracking me up and I agree, just what is needed after a horrid work day!!!!!

Taking on the poo issue had me spurting water out all over the keyboard! LOLOLOLOL

Hot and humid here today too. You walk outside after being in a freezing house and I swear the heat just takes your breath away. Molly isn't out much today at all and seems pretty happy with that.

We're suppose to get storms here tomorrow afternoon, which made me think of Patti, she'll probably get them too. :( We seem to get the same systems moving through. *sigh*

Hoping tomorrow is a cooler day for all. (Colder by Friday I hear!!!)
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Trixie]

:D :D :D hahaha Definitely going to stay away from the poop problems, I won't be taking that on--no worries!! :p
Humid, sticky, ugh....storms due here on Thursday. Thank goodness for air conditioning!

Trixie had such a normal day...I'm pinching myself. She's been so mellow..and water intake is under 20oz!! I can't believe that.
I know it can change from day to day and tomorrow could be the opposite of today, but I'm loving this no symptom day and night!!
:p :p Of course..she's plenty hungry though!!

Barbara:p

[Budsters Mom]

YAAAAAAAAAAAY for normal days! We'll take them, anyway and anytime! Go Trixie! :D

Barbara,
I really don't want to know about your poop issues. TMI!!! LOL XXXX

[Trixie]

:eek: Kathy!! No no one will!!! :D haha

[doxiesrock912]

Ladies, I'll trade your poo for a broken bedroom window :)

[Tina]

Oh your post made me laugh, thank you for that after a crazy work day:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

What we dont do for our kids and pups;););) Now dont go taking on any poo issues:eek::eek::eek::eek:

I know I will probably get censored again for that comment:p:p:p:p

Sputter sputter:D:D:D:D


Laughing my butt off here too. I wish I would have read this sooner, work has been wicked for me too!

Barbara, I am so happy to read how well Trixie is doing, and that her worrisome symptoms have improved so much. Keep it up Trixie!!

As far as the weather, it has been brutally hot and humid here for the last week or so. My A/C has been cranked. The weekend was terrible, and it was 99 degrees on Monday, and 96 yesterday. :eek: :eek: Now a front finally moved through last night with some rain and storms and cooled things off a bit, who knows if it will last. I hope this heat isn't heading your and Sharlene's way, it is just awful.

Hugs,
Tina and Jasper

[Trish]

Hooray, good news in Trixie's thread!! Love it :D Give her a gold star on her collar from me :)

Well tonight is the first night I have not had my heat pump on, but it is blowing an absolute gale outside. Strange it is so warm, but I will take it :) Flynn likes his own bed which is on the floor right next to mine, it is a habit of mine if I wake in the night to roll over and check he is OK and cover him up with one of his blankies. I really do not think he gets cold but I like him covered up so his arthriticy bones keep warm, when he gets too hot he gets out of his bed for a cool down on his padded fleecy blankey next to his bed. Spoilt much?! Hope you get a cool break soon, it always amazes me how fast the seasons change, soon you will all be freezing in the snow and I will be cooking in the heat!!

[goldengirl88]

Hi Barbara:
Well we woke up to a thick fog, and humidity and heat that is off the charts. It was 96 here yesterday, and the humidity is dangerous so I am keeping Tipper and Toby indoors today. Last nite Tipper was restless I think in part because of the testing done earlier. She was really tired and worn out though. I keep forgetting to ask the girls if they are offering her water when she is in the back being tested. She is always so thirsty and panting when I get her in the car, I always take food and water for her. She will not eat or drink until I leave the vets parking lot though. I will have to keep her entertained today as she will get bored being inside. I hope the vet calls me early today so we can get a plan together with Dechra. I get nervous when Tipper is not controlled as this disease has already done so much damage to her insides. Hope you don't have the weather we are having. We are supposed to get a big drop by the end of the week with cooler temps. You and Trixie stay cool today. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

A sad day here in the city...another 9/11 memorial just ended from downtown. Can't believe 12 years have gone by...what a scary morning that was here. It takes almost 4 hours to read all those names and every year it's still so sad but I always feel like I should watch and listen to the whole ceremony. Tonight when I look out my window towards downtown I'll be able to see the light beams memorial. It used to be on all the time...but now just for tonight.

So hot, muggy and humid today weather guy said the "real feel" will be 100 degrees! Yikes. Trixie and I are staying in. Did a short morning walk and that's it til later. Big storms forecast for tomorrow are supposed to usher in some nice cool air. Want the cool but the storms..not so much!
Barbara

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
I was also watching the memorial, it is so sad every year, but like you said it does not seem like 12 years went by already. I feel real pain for those people reading the names. Last nite on animal planet they had the hero dogs of 9/11. I started to watch and in the first few moments the bomb sniffing dog got locked in his cage so the handler could see what the alarms were for, and I knew the dog was going to die, I had to shut it off cause I did not want to hear them say he died locked in his kennel. I hope the US never sees anything near as devastating as this ever again. Glad you and Trixie are in. Tipper is letting me know she is bored, and wants out. It is horrible out there. Cannot wait for the cool northern breezes to come. This has to be the craziest weather this summer has brought us. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

I don't usually watch the memorials for this day. I think I'd just cry the day away if I did. So much changed that day for so many, for the entire country and world. In essence, I remember it perfectly and like the day that Kennedy or MLK was shot, it is one that I don't think people will ever forget.

We have moved from just and hot and humid to hot, humid and rainy. Blech. Molly is less than impressed and won't leave my side. (thunder is not her thing)

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Barbara,
Sorry about the yucky weather. I hope Trixie is continuing to do well.:p

I don't watch the memorials. It is hard enough having a 9/11 birthday without watching that. We always do a mini lesson at school to commemorate that day, so that is enough for me. So much tragedy makes my heart hurt.:(:o There were so many selfless heroes that have emerged since then.:D I was at work when that happened. Many parents showed up to take their kids, just so that they could hug them and see that they were okay. Yes! In California! Xxxx

[Trixie]

Well we enjoyed a number of really great days this past week. Trixie had hardly any symptoms showing.
Earlier today around 1pm or so she threw-up. I keep a towel on the couch where she sometimes sleeps so luckily it went right on that, and I could check it out. Undigested breakfast mostly.
Her morning was fine...one hour walk, poops and everything just fine. She was hungry and ate her breakfast at 10am and I gave her the morning dose.
I noticed this morning she went in for water before we left for the park so I thought maybe she might be having more symptoms today, she was also a little restless last night, but nothing terrible.
Anyway about 20 minutes after vomiting she gave me that look that she wanted to go out, so we did. She did a poop which was kind of soft, not terrible, no blood, not liquid. So she clearly had an upset stomach- but the usual question, why?
I have been watching her carefully and I do not think she has gotten too low. I"ve been keeping a close eye since she was seeming so "normal". She does not seem 100% right now. There's been no further vomiting or poops but we are about to take her out. She jumped up and got all excited when my husband came in-good sign.
I will withhold the 10pm dose and feeling worried...hoping it was just an upset. The doorman in our building gave her a treat this morning...maybe it had more fat content than she' used to??
I'll keep you posted. Hoping this is nothing. :(

Barbara

[Trish]

HI Barbara

Oh dear, poor Trixie feeling a little icky... like you I hope it is a one-off too! I am not keeping up on your NY weather now the US Open has finished, so hopefully your trip out in the fresh air will help her feel a little better. Have fun on your walk xxxx

[molly muffin]

You should be getting some of this cool weather Barbara. We're suppose to get down to 41F tonight (5C). That's chilly!! :) Today we were in the 50's all day. Molly liked it, I had a jacket out. LOL

It could have been a simple treat that was fatty or something else in it that just bothered her. See if she still has an upset tummy tomorrow or not. Sometimes it is the simplest thing that can throw them off.

Molly has always had times when she would woof her food down too fast, or she would run around the house after she ate, and then the next thing you know (it might not be right away, could be a bit later on) barfola. Out it comes. (course then being a dog, sorry if TMI, she tries to scarf it right back up and will defend it) I can see that and say, I am Glad I'm not a dog!! LOLOLOL

Hope you have a good weekend!
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Harley PoMMom]

When Sampson gets a big drink and then is active he will upchuck mostly water with some food in it if he has just eaten. These pups just like to keep us on our toes!! :confused::rolleyes::eek::)

[Trixie]

Well..it's 8:30. Trixie is acting like she is fine. When we went for a walk there were no poops, which was good actually...none is better than bad! She seemed peppy enough and walked along just fine.
No other vomiting except the one incident at 1:00pm.
She seemed starved for supper, which was white rice and she gobbled it up, had water and a small bit of kibble because she was begging while we were eating and I had to give her something she acted like she had never eaten before!
Everything has stayed down and she wanted more food for sure, but I tried to feed her conservatively.
I'm thinking she's fine, I'm nervous about skipping her dose...but I would be nervous to give it too! :(
ugh...hate this. I hope she doesn't have a restless night without her medication.
Yes, Sharlene I do think that scarfing up of food sometimes causes indigestion. Looked like she had a lot of unchewed turkey meat when she threw up.

After days of very nice relaxed breathing tonight it is more rapid again....is it possible that a surge in cortisol could have given her a gastro upset today? I feel like she was super controlled for days and today maybe not so much, can't help trying to figure things out.

Barbara

[Simba's Mom]

It's so up and down with our pups, just when its going well, some other thing comes up, sending hugs and prayers for you and Trixie...

[molly muffin]

I'd give it a couple more days to see how she is doing and whether she remains off, panting, etc, or if this is a one shot deal and she's just not having a fantastic day. An upset tummy can cause everything to be off with them. It's a crazy, delicate balance.

Get some rest, tomorrow will be cooler and Trixie is going to want a long morning walk in the park I bet. :) She might be more herself tomorrow too. We'll see how it goes. She won't be going to your mom's Sunday right?

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Barbara,
Sorry to hear that Trixie upchucked today, but am happy to hear that she is doing better this evening. They can certainly look pitiful and look like they're starving, can't they? I hope her panting is better tomorrow and she gets a nice, long, cool run at the park. Xxxx

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
I have a feeling it was the treat the doorman gave her. I think I would tell him Trixie is not well and can only eat certain things and give him some of the treats you have to feed her. I am sure he will be glad to help out. I am glad she is feeling much better. You mind gets a much needed break when your baby is doing well, I know. I am eagerly awaiting Tipper's 5mg from Diamondback. They sent me an email saying it shipped so hope it comes quickly as she has had a bad week. I got 90 5mg capsules for 53.25 that included shipping. What mg do you get from them for Trixie? You would think that Dechra would start to manufacture 5mg, and 20mg, as they are losing money to the compounding pharmacies, and I would prefer getting the Vetoryl. Well with the chicken, Vetoryl, and ACTH, Urine, Trilostane etc. Tipper has cost me a bundle this week. I wish all of this was not so expensive, as it is wiping me out. For her I will do anything though, so I guess it is all relative. Hope Trixie is loving the cooler weather, Tipper is so much better walking in the cool air. Have a good weekend. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Trixie is fine today. Last night when we went out she did a small firm poop. She had supper and treats, no vomiting and acting 100% fine. I knew last night there was no way she was too low...she had all the obvious signs...drinking, panting, hunger and energy, so I did end up giving her 10pm dose and she was fine all night.
My gut feeling was that she needed her dose and I agree with you Patti that the throw up incident earlier in the day was from the treat the doorman gave (it was actually 2 treats and I think they were peanut butter somethings). Today I did give him some of Trixie's low fat treats to give her. I hadn't the heart to ask him what kind of treat he gave her. He knew she got sick because when she needed to go out in the middle of the day he was surprised to see us..(we don't usually go out then) so I mentioned she had a tummy problem. I didn't want him to think I was blaming him so I didn't ask about his stash of treats...he's so nice to us and to Trixie!
Anyway she is just fine today....no problems, long, long walk in the nice cool weather and I'm about to take her out again.
I am so grateful it didn't end up being a major gastro problem! :D

Barbara

[Budsters Mom]

Happy to hear that Trixie has sprung back so quickly.:) I get the doorman thing, because Buddy couldn't be given anything from anyone, due to his allergies. I had to be extremely careful with that. No treats of any kind, except for what I provided. I have always lived in a house. Never in a place where there was a doorman, but it does sound like he was just trying to be nice.

Is Trixie staying home with your hubby tomorrow while you're off to care for your mom? Xxxxx

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Great that Trixie is feeling better. What a sweet doorman, he meant no harm. I have to watch going to the drive thru bank, they think Tipper is so cute and want to give her treats that they put in the capsule they send back with your deposit slips. I get it out before she gets to it and throw it away out the window when I leave the bank as I do not want to hurt the girls feelings. Tipper smells it and knows the girls do this it and gets ticked off when I wail it out, she looks to see where it goes. Some times she jumps on the capsule and tries to get it before I do, and it's a battle. We are loving this cooler weather, so I want it to keep coming!! Blessings
Patti

[Boriss McCall]

I am so glad Trixie is feeling okay. I always get worried about the stomach issues when they pop up. Glad hers was just an off day or a treat she couldn't handle.
Your doorman sounds so sweet. I probably would have done the same as you.
I am glad you & Trixie are getting to enjoy the lovely weather.

[Trixie]

Thanks Kathy, Patti and Amy-and everyone :) ...I too was glad it was a short lived tummy upset, thank goodness.

This amazingly beautiful and cool weather we are having has been great for Trixie. She's been outside so much and getting a lot of exercise and I don't have to worry that she's getting hot or won't be able to stop panting. Thanks to Canada for sending the cool breezes our way! :D
She's been pretty well controlled during the day. She gets in from the park at around 9-9:30am and drinks a moderate amount, has her medication at 10am and doesn't need to go out again until between 4:30 and 5pm. She goes almost all day with normal drinking and not needing to go out...but then by 5:30-6pm, after we get in from a walk the drinking starts up..then she needs to go out again or she's been using the pads again around 8pm. Her last walk is at 10-10:30 and she has no trouble peeing more then.
Totally she's drinking about 24oz a day...3 cups..she weighs about 17pounds...not crazy excessive but probably still more than what's considered normal.

I'll schedule an acth for the first week in October so I can see where her numbers are. Maybe she just needs a tiny bit more medication....she's on 28mg...maybe she needs 30mg. Obviously I won't know until we do the test. sigh. :( Such a frustrating disease. Not complaining too much...all in all she's doing pretty well.

Barbara :)

[spdd]

You are welcome for the cold weather but today we have another warm one. Haven't had too many this summer though.

Glad to hear Trixie is doing relatively well. I like to hear good news on here.

Perhaps the ACTH test will tell all and a bit of tweaking then all will be perfect.

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Well Tipper and Trixie will both be getting ACTH's in October. I need to see if the 25 is ok with Tipper or she is too low. I can tell a definite improvement with this dosage from the 20mg. It would be great if you just put them on one dosage and they stayed there and you didn't need all the ACTH's! I guess that is wishful thinking! Glad Trixie is doing well. The cool weather makes them feel so much better. I have to watch in the winter though as Tipper has that heart murmur and she cannot go out if it is under 32. I hope we have some real nice fall weather. I guess the storm will be coming soon, you are probably in for it too. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Today Trixie is so normal I am almost forgetting she has Cushings. Yesterday this wasn't the case..she was showing symptoms much of the day, was super hungry and drank a lot.
She's definitely not too low today...had a long walk, ate fine, poops fine. relaxed but not at all lethargic...everything is great!
So question for the experts--how is it that things can be so different from day to day?
Is it the nature of how the body makes cortisol that one day there's more than the other?
Yesterday I was sure she was not so controlled anymore and today it's like we went back in time a year!! This has happened before the same way, but it always surprises and confuses me.
How I wish she were like this everyday!!

Barbara

[Harley PoMMom]

Cortisol does fluctuate during the day, and also, I believe that the Vetoryl/Trilostane can do that too.

[molly muffin]

Wow, isn't that wonderful to have a completely normal day! :) You almost forget what they are like and then one pops up and you think, Oh yea that's what normal feels like. :)

Great to hear. It could be that she just has good days and then not as good days, without it being an actual bad day. (gee hope that made sense!!)

Hope you still have the cooler weather for walkies. :)

hugs,
Sharlene and molly muffin

[Trixie]

Yes Sharlene...it makes perfect sense...really good days and not so good days...that is what's it's been like with Trixie lately.
You know, I could tell first thing this morning it was going to be a no symptoms kind of day. She lounged in bed until it was time to go out and she didn't go in for water before leaving for the park and then normal drinking all day. She has her usual good appetite but it wasn't that crazed ravenous type today...what a nice change!!
The difference from day to day certainly does keep me scratching my head. :confused:
I wonder what she'll be like tomorrow??? :confused:
Still nice cool mornings and we've been having great walks. yay!

Barbara

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Barbara,
Don't question it, just enjoy the good days.:p:D They will carry you over for when the days are so great.;) I am glad to hear that Trixie is doing well. Xxxx

[Trish]

Hi Barbara and Trixie!! I did laugh when I read your story on Flynn's thread about Trixie walking onto the leafy pond and falling straight through, I could just imagine her surprise the poor little girl :D:D:D sounds like all is good in your neck of the woods, I think you finally have her at the right dose! :D:D:D Have a nice Sunday and a lovely walk! xx

[Simba's Mom]

Glad to hear that Trixie is doing well, hugs

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Just checking in on you and Trixie. Hope all is still going well. We are still having great cool weather here. Tipper just does better all the way around when it is cool. I am feeling better today so she has already walked. It seems this dosage is helping her, but she may need like a 6-7mg instead of a 5mg to add to her 20mg. I am so trying to keep her weight down and it is really hard considering I have to give her 3 pills in the morning in food, and then another later for her gallbladder. That is in addition to her supplements. So that is quite a few xtra pieces of chicken. She is barrel shaped her sides stick out so much now it is heartbreaking to see her like this. Hope you and Trixie have a good walk in the cool air. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

We're still hanging in here..just getting back to the board after Sunday out at my mothers. We're still just loving the nice cool weather here in NY. Trixie's just more comfortable outside and hasn't been panting at all inside or out. She still drinks more than she should but she's been doing okay. She even curls up in her bed a little more now. Since Cushings she almost always lays on the cool wood floor but this week she did go in her bed a few times...so funny to see her there again.
She used her pads a number of times this week though...don't like to see the extra peeing but oh well...she drinks, she pees.
We'll see how she does on the next acth. Hope everyone's pups are happy and doing well tonight. :p

Barbara

[Budsters Mom]

Glad to hear that Trixie continues to so well. :p Go Trixie! Xxxxxx

[doxiesrock912]

Daisy also prefers the cooler weather. Some days it saddens me because I miss taking her swimming and hiking.

Where are you in NY? I am 45 minutes from Manhattan by train.

[Trixie]

Thanks Kathy...she's doing pretty well....little things here and there, but trying to stay calm about the little things.

Val--I'm on the Upper East Side. Did I read on your thread that you're in Stamford?

[doxiesrock912]

Right next door, in Cos Cob which is part of Greenwich CT.

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
I think you are probably right about Trixie. After all we live and breathe this disease with them so who would know better that one of us? It is probably just some minor tweaking. Last nit Tipper got a little hungry. I am hoping it was a one nite thing. She may need 26-27mg, who knows?? I am hoping she does not start exhibiting this food thing again. She was so well controlled on the 30mg. it is too bad it made her pre number low. I bet Trixie is enjoying this cool weather. We have 34 this morning with a thick fog. We actually have frost on the ground. I had to put a vest on Tipper to walk in the cold. She slept under the covers last nite for the first time. I am just highly concerned with all the muscle contractions etc. at nite. Tipper does not go for the ACTH now until the 16th because of the dosage change up. I will have a full blood panel done then too, and pray to God that her ALK Phos and ALT are down. I always hate doing the blood because of the potential of seeing other problems, but it has to be done to catch things early. Blessings
Patti

[Boriss McCall]

Barbara,
I see the same thing with Boriss. He will be doing great.. Like he has nothing wrong with him & then a few days out of the month he has symptoms. I hate those days cause it is a harsh reminder that he isn't perfectly healthy. But, so far the good out weigh the bad.
Sometimes it can feel like a rollercoaster.

[molly muffin]

That is a good way to sort of gauge how things are going, as to whether the good days are more than the days when you see some symptoms. How often do you see the symptoms a month and how long do they last. Maybe that, when compared to what the ACTH tests end up showing, is a good gauge by all they are doing and how much they might need to go up or down

Hugs,
sharlene and molly muffin

[Trixie]

Lately we seem to have more good days than bad...oh how I hate to jinx this by writing about it!! :rolleyes: Since I still measure the drinking I know it's a little more than it should be but at least it's fairly consistent day to day.
I do notice that since Cushings her body clock is ruling everything, and she still has plenty of appetite, probably a little too much. She stares at me if we aren't headed out the door by 8am, treat time at 3pm..she's right on me at 2:59 and never misses...right now she's giving me the stink eye because she usually gets her plate at 6:30 and I just now see the time--6:30, and every single night without fail she gives me the stare at 10pm when pills are due...well, pills come with food you know. She was never quite this locked into a schedule but now she is--and with that I better go make Trixie's supper plate. I'll be back later! :D :D :D

Barbara

[molly muffin]

Make sure it's got the good stuff on that plate mom! hahahaha

It's true, Molly can tell the time better than I can without looking at a clock. She knows when her meals and treats are due. :)

I think it's great that you're having more good days than bad. That has to be a good sign :)

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
I think all these Cush dogs have little timers in their heads. Tipper knows to the minute when she is to be fed. Would it not be nice to have fall weather all year? It would be so good for our dogs. It was beautiful here yesterday, and we are to get rain on Sunday. As long as there is no thunder Tipper will be ok. Trixie sounds like she is doing well the last few weeks. Tipper was up at 5:30 this morning, so I am dragging a bit. As long as she wakes up that is all I care about. What kind of low fat treats are you giving Trixie? I cannot seem to get this extra weight off Tipper this time. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Hi Patti,
Mostly I give Trixie "Charlie Bear" treats. They look like big lentils and are 3 calories a pop. Of course she gets a bunch of them. I also give her Wellness brand apple yogurt bricks...they are pretty low in fat too.
Lately she just loves any treat that is soft and chewy but most of that type have more fat than I usually get...I look at the values on the back and I don't buy anything that is over 6%. I read online that "anything less than 10% on dry matter basis is considered low fat". Not sure I know what that means exactly but I shoot for 6% and under on the label.
I found some good treats both crunchy and chewy by a company called Cloud Star..they are Buddy Biscuits and the chewy ones are called Wag More...Trixie really loves those. They are kind of expensive but they don't have any artificial color or junk in them and are low fat for that type of treat.
Yes..hoping it's stays cool but our weather guy said next week we might go up in the 80's!! :eek: I am hoping we don't! I'll have to put the a/c on if it actually gets that warm again.

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Barbara,
Yes, more good days than bad is a great sign that things are working well for Trixie. Celebrate the good days whenever they occur. That way they help offset the bad ones. Then again, any day with Trixie has to be a good day because you still have each other. :p xxxx

[Trixie]

Thanks Kathy...Trixie's been having really decent days this week. I'm grateful she seems to be doing so well. The cool weather has made a huge difference..more outside time and that's always helpful.
So far the Fall weather has been amazing here in NY. We're in for an Indian Summer next week though so it may get a bit warm again...hopefully it won't be humid too!
Hope you have a nice weekend in SoCal!! :D

[goldengirl88]

Barbara;
Another cool morning here. It has made such a difference for Tipper that I hope the Indian summer does not bring the humidity back with it. Tipper is enjoying not having to go to the vets for a week. She has had a really good couple days, with the exception of getting hungry at nite. I am wondering how much of it is habit, or is she not controlled yet?? Glad Trixie is enjoying this weather, with Cush pups we have to take advantage of it. Are the leaves turning there yet? Some of ours are already falling. Blessings
Patti

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Tipper is enjoying this weather so much, and then this mornings news said storms on Friday so be prepared with Trixie in case you get them too. Hope Trixie is still having fun outside. I so wish the weather could just stay like this the rest of the year. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Same with us Patti!! I'm afraid our cool streak here in the city will end for a few days with the forecast of Indian summer this week. Good thing that the mornings will probably still be cool enough for our long walk.
Today was another perfect day in Central Park for Trixie. She plowed through the damp grass sniffing away. Got herself pretty wet and then dragged her schnauzer beard through some sandy dirt and by the time we were walking home Trixie was a bedraggled mess!
Makes me feel good to see her thoroughly enjoy herself to the point where she's filthy but the minute we got inside it was straight into the kitchen sink for a bath. After that I let her tear up a bag because she was all frisky from the water. So...she had a great morning and has been sleeping it off.
Seems like we may even need to put the a/c on today...I face South and the sun it heating up all my main rooms like crazy! Have to keep Trixie cool and comfy! :rolleyes:

Barbara

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Barbara,
A dirty dog is a happy dog.:D:D i'm glad that Trixie had such a wonderful time at the park today. It is the simple joys that make it all worthwhile.;) xxxx

[molly muffin]

This is absolutely perfect for Trixie. What a great time she must have been having! I love it when they get all crazy and have fun like that too.

Hope it didn't get too hot. It's nice here, drizzle today and then sun, but not overly hot or overly cold. Perfect fall type weather. :) We might get a couple warm days this week but then back to full fall next week.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Trish]

Haha least she didn't have any poop to roll in!! Glad she is out and having fun!! Awesome! :) xxxx

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Great to hear Trixie had such a good time. A little dirt and sun in the cool air is a perfect combination for a dog. Has she been ok at nite, or is she showing any symptoms? Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

hi Patti,
Trixie has been good at night, and in general has had good control the past few days. Today she had a really great day of no symptoms...it's now 10pm and she has only had 19oz of water!! Under 20oz is amazing. She usually averages 3 cups or so which for her 16pounds is a little high...but today was closer to normal! I would be so happy if this holds for a bit!! :p:p
I have also noticed there is color in her urine for the last couple days. It's been pretty dilute for awhile and the last month a little tint of color. Since she goes out on the pavement on our way to the park I noticed today much more color, so that's a positive sign.
It got pretty warm here today up to 85 and warmer tomorrow...:(
Had to close the windows and put on the a/c to keep it cool. Hopefully the heat wave will be short lived!

[spdd]

Hi Barb, I'm so glad to hear Trixie is enjoying herself. When Keesh gets dirty, it's a major production getting him clean again.

I remember when I was glad to see coloured urine, matter of fact ecstatic to see burned grass. Funny what we take delight in with our pups.

You go Trixie !!

[goldengirl88]

Hi Barbara:
I am glad Trixie continues to do well. I am lucky that I can always tell if Tipper's urine has color because she is snow white down there, and it stains her fur. I purposely leave enough there so I can take a quick look and tell if her urine has color. Oh the crazy things we resort to! Tipper was not too comfortable the last two days as it got hot again, she did not even want to stay out on the porch for a few minutes. I can't wait till another cold front comes! Blessings
Patti

[Simba's Mom]

Glad to hear that Trixie is doing well

[Trixie]

Thank you Letti! How's little Meeko doing?? Still up to puppy mischief? I'm sure you're enjoying having him around!! :D

I can't believe--another day that Trixie has not had more than 20oz of water! 19 oz today to be exact. :p
6 months ago she sometimes drank 50oz in one day! :eek:
All along the excessive drinking has been what worried me the most..oh and the liver number..but the drinking is more tangible..I would see it. No telling how long this will last but for tonight it's making me happy! :D

Barbara

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
It is so reassuring to know that Trixie is not drinking all that water. I know every time Tipper goes to the water bowl, I get a pain in my gut thinking of all the water she used to drink and worrying it will start again. Never though I would develop an aversion to water. It is cool here and expecting rain so Tipper has already walked. have you ever gone over to the Today show, or Good Morning America? How about any of the concerts they have outdoors? Sound like fun to me. Blessings
Patti

[spdd]

Hi Barbara... good news about the water intake. Keesh has reduced his too... seems this week there is some good news for some of us anyway.

[Trixie]

yes...the drinking has always been my gauge of how controlled she is. Now she drinks very little during the first half of the day. Only 4oz so far and that's after a long walk. She drinks more in the evening but it's so much better!!
Judi-I'm so glad Keesh is also reducing the water intake!! yay!

Patti- I feel exactly the same way! Before Cushings I was always so glad to see Trixie having a nice long drink--so happy she was nicely hydrated. During the worst of the drinking I would almost be in tears seeing her there slurping up the whole bowl. Seeing it reduced now is such a positive sign that she is certainly way better controlled.

I have never gone to any of the morning shows to be in the crowd. You have to be there really early to be in front..it's mostly tourists and they get there at 5:30-6am or earlier if it's a live concert.
I have been in the studio audience of a few shows over the years...Rosie O'Donnell, Regis & KathieL, Saturday Night Live...and a couple other short lived talk shows. It's fun but you have to be at all these shows well before they come on so it's a long day and they make you applaud so much that your hands hurt!! ;)

Barbara

[molly muffin]

Whoo Hooo, Trixie sounds like she is doing much better in the drinking area. That is good, her control is probably about where you want it to be with that symptom decreasing now.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Where is you friend located in Pgh? Yes we did get that storm with so much thunder Tipper ran in the closet. It came up real fast. Heard there were some tornadoes down south. Did you get any of it? Just when Tipper was starting to let her guard down it had to start up again! Hope Trixie continues to improve, as this seems like it may be her sweet spot for a while. Blessings
Patti

[Trish]

Hi Barbara

I see you online right now, I just made a pathetic attempt in the garden and planted a tomato and picked a few weeds and then had to come back in for a cup of tea and a sit down :D:D

Trixie sounds like she is doing great and it is lovely to read she is worrying you less by keeping the water intake down to more normal levels!!

Happy weekend to you! xx

[Trixie]

Hi Trish,
Yes...I am on but awhile ago I feel asleep with the computer on my lap!
Yes...drinking is down some and pretty consistent from day to day...seems like a positive sign. Of course as I write this she came back in the room with a wet face and looking at me like she wants a snack...oh well not everyday is perfect. Hope you get some more gardening in over the weekend..wishing you a nice one as well.

Patti, So you did get that storm! My very good friend of over 40 years (!) lives right in Pittsburgh..in the Squirrel Hill area.
Hot again here today...guess maybe that's why Trixie did drink a bit more today. I really wish this heat would end already but I think we're in for more the next few days. ugh. Hope you're weekend is a good one too.

[goldengirl88]

Hi Barbara:
I know the Squirrel Hill area well. I used to go thru it every day on my way to work. We did get the storm. Today we got up and while getting the troops their food it started a heavy down pour. It got Tipper rattled a bit, but no panting or anything. She is pretty good if the thunder does not start. Tipper was in for the last 2 days because of the heat and humidity. I sure hope it goes away too. It is so much easier to manage these dogs when it is cool. Hoping Trixie can get out today before the rain comes your way. I think Tipper's split dose is working, so we will see if it continues. Blessings
Patti

[goldengirl88]

Barbara:
Hoping you and Trixie are enjoying the cool weather. Tipper is loving it. Trixie's ACTH is coming up soon isn't it? My vet will be out of town for Tipper's so I will be shadowing the vet that does it as I always use my vet and don't like the switch. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Hi Patti,
Yes on the acth test..I have to hold off for a bit.
It seems my mother is in the last stages of life, many end stage symptoms started over the last 2 weeks and especially on Sunday when I was there. She's unable to eat now which is the natural shutting down. Hospice will be coming tomorrow and I guess now it's just a matter of time. sigh.

Luckily right now Trixie is well controlled, except when we were at my mother's house on Sunday. She did her usual thing when she was there-hunting for food, going in and out numerous times and drinking a lot of water. She added a nice dose of stress to an already stressful situation, but it was okay because once she was back home on Monday she was back to good control...guess she just gets all worked up at my mother's house.
Today she drank a completely normal amount of water, so I do want to test soon to make sure we don't go too low. Energy and appetite are still really good. I will get her tested just as soon as we can.
So many things to always worry about...

Barbara

[molly muffin]

Oh Barbara, big hugs! I know this is hard to try and manage. Hospice is really great though. They will make sure that she is comfortable and well taken care of I am sure.
This is a rough stage to be at though. I'm glad that Trixie is doing well right now, so that is one thing you don't have to worry about too much. I know you'll still worry but at least she seems to be doing well. Great that she drank normal level of water. Whoooo Hooo!

big hugs to you! Hang in there! We're right here with you.
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Budsters Mom]

I am so sorry to hear about your mom Barbara. :p None of this us ever easy. Sending you tons of love, many hugs and strength to handle what lies ahead. The hospice people are truly angels. They will explain everything you need to know and help your mom feel comfortable. I'll be thinking of you. Xxxxx

[Trish]

Hi Barbara

So sorry to read the latest news on your Mom, even when they are getting older and slowly deteriorating it still comes as a shock when you get to the stage you are facing now. I am very pleased to hear the hospice are involved, such a great organisation around the world. You will hopefully be kept comfortable and I always think at this stage it is harder on their loved ones. So please take care of yourself sweet and tell Miss Trixie she needs to be on her best behaviour for a while as you have enough on your plate at the moment.

Much love xxxxx

[spdd]

Barbara, so sorry to hear about your Mom. I'm with you every step of the way as I've been through this with my Mom. It's so hard for those standing by and almost too hard to believe at times. If I can be of any help just p.m. me - my shoulder is here for you.

I have noticed as Keesh got older he didn't like to stay anywhere for any length of time, he wanted to be home. I could take him somewhere to visit, places he was very familiar with and he was fine for about 10 minutes then it was obvious he wanted to be back in the car going home. Could this be the same with Trixie?

My thoughts are with you, don't hesitate to contact me if you want to vent, talk, ask questions or just have someone listen.

Hugs going your way !!