Daisy Mae - our sweet Daisy has crossed The Bridge

[molly muffin]

Awwww, Valerie, this is a suck mess. Why if they thought that your dad needed someone to take care of his finances, wouldn't they determine that you his relative who with and takes care of him, isn't the best person anyhow. That is so frustrating.
I hope the powder helps Daisy, she sure has had a rough road and so have you.
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[doxiesrock912]

Thanks everyone. I didn't feed her last night or this morning. Boiled chicken tonight which so far is staying with her.

As far as the VA goes, they often appoint someone other than a family member and in many cases the veteran gets scammed. I asked his oncologist and the social worker to write letters for me stating his competence since they see him at least every two months. Hopefully that will be enough proof.

[doxiesrock912]

Patti,
I guess I'd better get my own vodoo doll to make it a fair fight :-)

[Budsters Mom]

Oh Valerie,
You are on my mind this evening. No!!!!!! Daisy would not be better off with someone else! She is with her mom that loves her. That's exactly where she wants to be. :) We all do the best we can, with the resources we have, at any given time. There are treatments that could help Buddy, but they aren't going to happen because I can't afford them. A lot of us struggle with the cost of treating this horrible disease. Know that you are not alone in this and we do understand. Daisy is blessed to have you Valerie. Do not ever think otherwise.
I do hope your dad's benefits get sorted out soon. That is no way to treat our veterans. Give Daisy an extra cuddle tonight for me. :)

Hugs,
Kathy

[doxiesrock912]

Kathy, giving Daisy to someone else would be a last resort. I was seriously freaking out the other day and literally couldn't handle another negative thing happening.

I'll feel much better with dad sorted out and praying that the Tylan powder does wonders for Daisy.

You know how you feel when everything is going wrong and then you get kicked when you're down.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
It sounds like you are getting back up there! You still have fight left in you girl, so go get em! I am hoping this Tylan does it with Daisy. Her poor little butt must be sore from all this. Can Daisy tolerate potato/ I know when my parrot was sick from cancer, and had the runs the vet would tell me to give her cooked potato, as it must act like a sponge in the intestines. Worth a try if nothing else helps. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

So far, the boiled chicken seem to be making things try to firm up. I'll stick with that and no Trilo until she's on the Tylan powder for a bit. Crossing my fingers.

[Budsters Mom]

Glad to hear that you both are hanging in there. ;) Whatever you feed Daisy, make sure it is plain. No spices or onions. You don't want a bigger problem. ;)
Hugs,
Kathy

[doxiesrock912]

Three meals of boiled chicken, fortiflora, and the Tylan for the first time tonight. No poops since this morning and so far NO accidents in the house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

Once I determine that the Tylan powder has resolved things I will begin at the beginning with the Trilo again.

Hoping that we have it right this time! I'm now sure that she has IBD which the Trilo aggravated considerably.

Hope all is well with everyone!

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Hoping Daisy continues to do well with the chicken. This sounds like the best plan yet to get rid of the runs. It is going to be a nice day here today, so I want to go out a while and enjoy it with Tipper. Blessings
Patti

[milosmom]

so happy to read this valerie !!! so happy for litl daisy mae!!! may she continue with a happy belly...enjoy this beautiful day valerie :) patty(milo)meka xoxox

[doxiesrock912]

A very dark, but normally formed rather large poop today so I gave her 5mg of Trilo and the same tonight!

[molly muffin]

Crossing fingers Valerie!

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Simba's Mom]

Hope Daisy Mae starts to feel better with her tummy issues, it's like u need the meds but wait, it might upset the tummy, really sucks, but seems like every med has side effects, what else can we do, the pups need the meds....makes it hard for our pups, praying for you and Daisy Mae!

[Trish]

HI Valerie

Hope the tummy is right with the meds, poor wee Daisy I bet she was mortified having those accidents. I feel for her embarrasment :(. Hope she is right this time, so hard to get everything balanced at the same time, so much trial and error so hoping this time will be it for her! Many hugs for you guys :)

[Budsters Mom]

Valerie,
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you both.:) I'm glad to hear that the powder seems to be doing the trick. Daisy probably hates the diarrhea as much as you do. Poor little thing.:o
Hugs,
Kathy

[goldengirl88]

Valarie:
I hope Daisy is still doing well this morning on her Tylan powder. This has probably been very hard on her, she is probably exhausted from this diarrhea. I hope things continue to go well for her. Blessings.
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

So far, so good!

[molly muffin]

yay for good news! Hope this solves the problem. I wonder if it was a flair up of the previous e-coli problem. Sort of sounds that way doesn't it.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Budsters Mom]

Awesome!!!!Great news Valerie!:D Hugs to you both!
Kathy

[doxiesrock912]

It's either the eColi or the IBD. Either way, things are improving and I'm starting her back on 5mg of Trilo twice a day. If she continues to do well, I'll move up to 7.5mg twice a day.

[goldengirl88]

Yahoo!!! Go Daisy, Go Daisy

[Trixie]

Valerie,
So glad that so far Tylan seems to be helping. It worked wonders for Trixie...I felt so relieved once something finally worked on her last year! Hope Daisy continues to improve. :D
Barbara

[Simba's Mom]

Yay Daisy Mae, way to make your Momma happy, who knew poos could make us all so happy, we are quite a group lol :)

[doxiesrock912]

So far, so good! Thank you all for your prayers :)

[Trish]

Yep, I'll take that good tummy report! Phew, so pleased it seems to be settling for Dasiy (I am saying that very quietly so I don't jinx anything!) One day at a time, so good luck for today Valerie! :)

[goldengirl88]

Daisy you're a rock star!! Way to go girl!!!!

[Fellasmom]

Hi Val
Just getting caught up on your thread and glad to hear Daisy is improving.Wish for many good days ahead-you two have been thru enough!

I read about your dad awhile back and didn't see any followup but may have missed it.To have a person deemed incompetent is very very difficult to do nowadays.It used to be done years ago very easily but with more patient advocacy and awareness of patient's rights,it is very difficult to legally determine someone incompetent.If your father is alert and oriented,I can't imagine why they would even consider this.Anyhow,just thought I would check in and see how things were going.
Patty

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Valerie,
Just popping in to check on two of my favorite gals. :) I hope all is well.
Hugs,
Kathy

[doxiesrock912]

So far, so good everyone!
Trying to get letters to prove that dad is competent to send to the VA. This is apparently standard practice when anyone is receiving a large sum of money from them. They hire someone else (other than the family members who have been standing by the veteran all along in many cases) and that person can run wild with the money.

After that happens, the family seeks restitution IF they can afford a lawyer. It's a very broken system from what I am reading.

[Budsters Mom]

I am thrilled to hear that Daisy May is doing well and that her diarrhea is under control. Go Daisy!:D
Hugs,
Kathy

[doxiesrock912]

Thanks Kathy,
I did notice that her legs seem to be thinner thought. Will more exercise bring back some of the lost muscle mass?

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
So glad Daisy is still doing well. Tipper walks at least a mile every day and it has not brought back her leg muscle. I think it has maintained what she has left, but has not brought any back unfortunately. Hope Miss Daisy has a good day as it is good weather to walk. Blessings
patti

[Budsters Mom]

Valerie, Rear leg weakness is usually one of the last Cushing's symptoms to improve, or so I have read. Yes exercise can build muscle mass or at least help keep what they have left. It doesn't apply in Buddy's case though. A lot of his leg problems are neurological due to his macro symptoms. Exercise isn't going to fix that.:(
Hugs,
Kathy

[doxiesrock912]

Kathy and Patti,

she was doing better with the leg weakness with the higher dosage of Trilo. Since her stomach is holding its own, I've gone back up to 7.5mg twice a day and if she stays improved, then I'll try the original recommendation of 10mg twice a day.

If she's greatly improved on the 7.5mg though, I'll stay with that dosage.

She was off Trilo for almost a week when the diarrhea was so bad and she regained her pot belly which isn't helping. She looks like a black and tan mini hippo. Poor thing.

The heat bothers her but we did play a bit inside tonight.

[Trish]

HURRAY for good poops!! And a little play too, sounds like she is getting her mojo back, love to read about these improvements, long may they continue :)

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
It is so nice to hear Daisy is still improving, keep up the good work! Blessings
patti

[knitbunnie]

Wow - I started reading your thread and some of it sounds so familiar. Pia got so darned sick when we had to change her food - darn the manufacturer for discontinuing her food! We've gone through the pot belly, the being super sick, the hugely bloated belly (my Pia sometimes looks like she swallowed a football sideways), and the scrawny hind legs. It's too bad we can't get Daisy Mae and Pia together to play and build up their leg muscles again.

The other things going on in your life are much more than I've been going through. I wish you and your family all the luck in the world. Dealing with the VA is a complete grind. I haven't done it my self, but I've had friends who have felt like they were just bashing their heads into a brick wall dealing with the VA.

I sure hope Daisy Mae's bowel movements stay firm. Cleaning up those accidents is not fun at all. Pia had the runs a few days ago and I was so worried that it was from the trilostane, which we just started last week, but then our little Boston Terrier had the runs, too, so I guess they both had "something".

I need to look into Tylan powder. That's new to me, but I like to be prepared. Our local vet sort of needs to be lead by the nose. Thankfully, I have UC Davis for the Cushings, but I still need to use our local bonehead for some things.

Pia sends puppy kisses, and I'm sending hugs to both of you.

[doxiesrock912]

Local "bonehead". Ha ha ha hahaaa! I love it:)

I found the Tylan powder on Amazon.com and I didn't need to send in the script from the vet! The vet wanted to charge $25 more and I told them to keep it for some other putz.

I've learned my lesson about price checking for meds now.

I think that Daisy's tummy poof is starting to come down! Her fur is gaining back its shine!!!!!! Whooo hooooo! Happy dance.

[Trixie]

Yay Daisy! Sounds like she's sailing right along!! SO glad she's feeling good! :D
Barbara

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Hope Daisy is just moving right along with the Tylan. It sounds like you finally found something that works on her. Buying all this stuff to treat the different issues they have can be expensive. I guess it's trial by error though. You never know what will work and what won't. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

I had to share this.

Hopefully, it will brighten everyone's day.https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=132686253605422

[Budsters Mom]

Valerie,
How was your and Miss Daisy's day?
Hugs,
Kathy

[doxiesrock912]

Daisy was not impressed with the heat today. She went out, did what she had to and headed straight back home. I really can't blame her:) So far so good still!

Thanks for checking in on us :)

[Trixie]

Oh same here Valerie with that heat today. We got in a good early morning walk before it got too bad...but later on it was the same for Trixie. She can't take the heat much anymore. It's going to be even hotter tomorrow I think.
Glad Daisy's still doing well. Yay for Tylan. It can really do the trick.
Loved the cockatiel video, how cute is that bird!?
Barbara

[Simba's Mom]

Just checking in on you and Daisy Mae, hope you have a great weekend....

[infoviewer]

So glad Daisy is better. You did it Valarie, yay for you. Love the little bird. Hope you are having a good day. Love, JoAnne

[milosmom]

happy to read that miss daisy is doing better valerie,sending much love !!! patty(milo)meka xoxox :).... we have been taking long weekends up the country with meka so this is why i am not always on here.... stay well !!!

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
How cute is that bird??? Great job with Miss Daisy, glad she is still doing well. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

That tylan powder really has worked, which signifies that this was some sort of bacterial problem causing the loose stools right?
Hoping for some cool morning walks. It's a humid one here today.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[doxiesrock912]

Thank you everyone :)

Now that we have things under control, I hope to see decline in her symptoms again.

Sharlene, Tylan powder is also used to treat IBD and IBS in dogs. Since the improvement was literally instant, I am suspecting IBD over the bacterial infection.

Either way, it's working and that is all that matters :)

[milosmom]

:) !!! <3 so happy things are working out valerie ~~~ patty(milo)meka xoxox

[Budsters Mom]

Go Daisy, go Daisy, go Daisy,!!!! Great news Valerie. I'm glad Daisy's tummy seems to be settling.:)
Hugs,
Kathy

[doxiesrock912]

Get this!!!!

Daisy is currently taking 7.5mg of Trilo twice a day and I am seeing a decline in her symptoms along with her pot belly!

Should I increase to 10mg or wait until her next IMS appt? I'm thinking of waiting as to not risk having problems again with the higher dose :)

Happy mommy :)

Also, I persuaded dad's primary care doc and his social worker to write letters addressing his competency for me and all has been mailed to the VA! Praying that this avoids a hearing and an appointment of a fiduciary and that we finally get paid for the past year of waiting etc.

Crossing my fingers.

[Harley PoMMom]

It's wonderful that Daisy's symptoms are decreasing, and I agree with you about not increasing her dose until the next visit with the IMS. YooHoo for Daisy!!! :)

[Simba's Mom]

So glad to hear that Daisy is improving, and hope good news for your Dad too...
Question for you, what is tylan powder that you are using for Daisy Mae?

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
I agree I would not increase until after seeing the IMS. Daisy must be so happy without the runs! That had to have been wearing on her. Keep up the good work. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Letti,
the proper name for Tylan powder is Tylosin. It is a very fine yellow powder that I sprinkle 1/8 teaspoon that I sprinkle onto Daisy's food morning and night. The IMS described it as a low level natural antibiotic.

It doesn't taste the best so I sprinkle this one first and then the 1/2 packet of Fortiflora directly on top of that. Daisy eats it all.

[molly muffin]

That is wonderful news Valerie. I wouldn't increase it yet. Actually I was thinking that it could be that now that the tylan powder has helped her out, that her post ACTH number could come down. Anything bothering them can cause the cortisol to be higher, so maybe now she can really settle in and see if the trilostane will act as it should. Lets see whats what on the next visit.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Just checking in on Miss Daisy this morning. have you heard anything from the V.A.? Did you get any indication how long it would take? Hope things get settled for you, as they are sure looking up for Daisy. Blessings
Patti

[Squirt's Mom]

You really should see the IMS before changing doses...and after changing to make sure the change is working. Not wise to play with these drugs willy-nilly. ;)

[addy]

It doesn't taste the best so I sprinkle this one first and then the 1/2 packet of Fortiflora directly on top of that. Daisy eats it all.

I don't want to rock the boat but technically, this cancels one of them out if you give an antibiotic at the exact same time as a probiotic. Unless Forti Flora is a different kind of probiotic, you really should wait two hours or more. Antibiotics kill off the good bacteria in the gut, probiotics replace the good bacteria, it is counter productive technically.:o:o

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Just checking in to see how the princess Daisy is doing this morning?? Hope she is still doing well on the new meds. Hope you and your Dad are well also. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Ladies,

the IMS didn't mention giving the Fortifora at a different time but to be safe, I will :) So far, Daisy is still doing great! Her pot belly has decreased considerably too.

[Budsters Mom]

YAY!!!!!!! Go Daisy! I am thrilled to hear that Daisy's tummy as finally settled. Whew, what a relief!
Hugs,
Kathy

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
I think Daisy made up her mind to go for the record this time. So glad she is doing well. Blessings
Patti

[Simba's Mom]

So glad to hear that Daisy Mae is doing well, its always a battle to keep those tummies settled it seems....take care

[goldengirl88]

Daisy:
Tipper said you gooooooooo girl!!!!!! No more tummy aches!!!!!!!!!!!!! Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

My father and I went to the mall tonight on a quest for light weight Dockers for him:)

So far, I have been doing really well with being positive about Daisy having Cushings. We happened to see a pet store and he couldn't resist going in. Of course, I followed. We played with 2 BEAUTIFUL dapple doxies and all was fine. We wanted to bring them home but I felt that it wouldn't be fair to Daisy and that two cats were enough for her to live with.

Imagine my surprise when I barely made it out of the store with tears running down my cheeks! Memories of Daisy as a healthy pup were flooding my mind and the comparison of her now was hitting me hard. Couple that with my knowledge that the puppies in these places almost always come from puppy mills and I was a complete mess. I so wanted to "rescue" those two babies tonight!

I think that dad wanted to as well because he mentioned it later on.

I feel so heartbroken for Daisy Mae. No dog deserves this disease and I can't understand why most vets aren't more knowledgeable considering how prevalent it is:(

Hoping that everyone is having a peaceful night.

[Trish]

HI Valerie... yep seeing those pups do take us back to when ours were fit and healthy. I have a friend with a new pup and get those same pangs every time we visit and Cooper runs rings around Flynn.
Bittersweet eh, love to you guys xxx

[Budsters Mom]

There is nothing like puppies to get your heart a stirring.;) Yes the melancholy definitely sets in when we see our poor little Cush pups fighting the way they do.:o It doesn't seem quite fair, does it?
Hugs to you and sweet Daisy.
Kathy

[Simba's Mom]

So understand Valerie, seeing healthy pups would make me cry too, our pups so deserve better.....but we just have to keep plugging along and thats what we all do, so glad we have each other in this cushings world...take care hon and so glad that Daisy Mae's tummy is going down....makes them more comfortable!!!

[molly muffin]

Awww Valerie. Big hugs to you. I wish all the furbabies here would be healthy and happy forever.

It would be great if all vets understood cushings, how it works together with the rest of the body and the best drugs to use and the testing protocols. For some reason though they just don't seem to all get it. It is really only a few that have further studied cushings and you'll usually find it is the ones who try to stay up with the latest News (not latest manufacturer of drugs news, but actual vet news) and attend conferences, read the studies, that do the best.

It is so HARD to walk out and not take every puppy and kitten home when you go into those pet stores.
Sounds like your dad thinks the same way we all do. :)

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Valerie,
Just popping in to check on you and to make sure Miss Daisy is keeping you in line. ;)How's it going today? Is Daisy still on the same Trilostane dosage? How's it looking on the poop front? Big hugs,
Kathy

[doxiesrock912]

Daisy is on the bad list tonight. She showed her teeth at me when I tried to take her outside before bed time. I am not happy and will be surprised if I don't find a mess in the morning. Her poops are still normal but she seems to be super sluggish today and I'm attributing this to the humidity.


I tried bribing Daisy with a treat but it didn't work. I'm hoping that it's just the heat and she's tired. We'll see what happens in the morning.

Hoping that everyone is sleeping soundly.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Tipper does the same thing at times. I think with all the changes going on inside of them sometimes they would rather not get up and walk around. I think when Tipper does this she is feeling uncomfortable, and just wants to lay there and not be bothered. She growled at me a few times when I attempted to move her to stand up and go out. As crazy as this sounds I try to surprise her and start talking real loudly and saying" lets go outside I think there is a bunny in the yard." She always wants to go after bunnies. She gets startled and kind of jumps up. Then I throw a treat a few feet away where she can see it. When she goes for it, I get the harness on her and take her out. See if you can catch her off guard and try getting her all excited. I have to make sure when a storm is coming at night that I get her out before as she will not go out after it starts, and she holds it which is really bad. She never ever goes in the house, although that would be better for her body if she did. She would hold it for 24 hours if it is storming, but I don't let her. I have to force her to go out and go, and I have to watch ,as she is so scared she would bite me. Hope all is well with her today. How is your dad doing? Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Sorry that Daisy displayed attitude to you when you tried to take her out. Did everything go okay overnight?

Maybe she was just feeling off with the humidity.

Hoping for a good day today
hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Budsters Mom]

So sorry that Miss Daisy was acting a little snippy with you :( How does she seem today? Xxxxxxxxx
Kathy

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
I hope Daisy is still doing well. She will get a nice weekend with her grandpa. I am devastated at the loss of two of our members dogs in one day. I can't stop thinking of Vicki, and Kathy. Even if you know at some point this could happen, you cannot be prepared for the death of your baby it just doesn't work that way no matter who says you knew it was coming. I don't think there really is any way to get you mind set for something like this. This disease is down right evil. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Hello everyone,
we had to stop the Trilo again for a few days and I'm working back up to 7.5mg twice a day.

Daisy has a slight pot belly and her fur looks dry and brittle. It's amazing how quickly some of the symptoms return in just a few days!

Hoping that everyone is well :)

[Simba's Mom]

Oh shoot Valerie, poor little Daisy Mae, I so pray that this dreaded disease would just go away and leave our furbabies alone, sending hugs to you and prayers that she feels better....

[doxiesrock912]

Me too Letti.
Until Cushings, Daisy's fur was always gorgeous and shiny and she was a very proud looking girl with loads of muscles and strength.

I'm hoping that one day soon they'll have a super breakthrough that will make Cushings a thing of the past for all of us.

[Trish]

Oh stink bum, thought it was sorted this time. Sorry to hear Daisy is still on the hunt for her dose... was it her tummy again? Poor sweetpea, feel better Daisy xx

[labblab]

Hey Valerie,

Sorry to hear that you are yet to get Daisy stabilized on a consistent dose of her trilostane. :(

I was checking back in your thread, and don't think I've seen any monitoring ACTH results since the single test performed at the end of April. At that time, I think Daisy was taking 5 mg. twice daily, and unfortunately her cortisol was totally uncontrolled with a post-ACTH result of 35 ug/dl. Her dosing since then has been very sporadic, so perhaps that's why another ACTH has not yet been done?

I know you've been assuming that it is the trilostane that is causing her loose stools. But I'm gonna throw a different thought out for your consideration. I wonder whether they could possibly be caused by her ongoing elevated cortisol. Since steroids normally have an anti-inflammatory action, I know it's paradoxical to think that high cortisol could be causing intestinal problems rather than helping them. But my IMS told me that he had seen cases of bowel irritation that seemed to be associated with ongoing uncontrolled cortisol levels. With the low and inconsistent doses of trilo that Daisy has been receiving, it seems unlikely that her cortisol level has been reduced significantly since the time of diagnosis. Maybe you might bite the bullet and try giving her an uninterrupted and genuinely therapeutic dose of trilo for a while, regardless of the loose stools?

However, if you feel certain that it really is the trilo itself that is causing the intestinal problems (in other words, if she always clears up when the trilo is halted), maybe you and Dr. Morgan might consider shifting her to Lysodren? Because unless an ACTH shows otherwise, it doesn't seem likely that Daisy is getting any genuine systemic benefit from her current trilo dosing, and there seems little gain from intermittently giving her a low dose of the medication if all it does is upset her GI tract.

Marianne

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Sorry Daisy is yet to get straightened out on the Trilostane. Tipper has had her pot belly since the inception of this disease, and it has never gone away. I think I have seen others on hear say their dogs have gone away. I was under the impression once they had the pot belly it was not going away, so I am curious why Tipper's never went down. Hope Daisy gets straightened out, especially so the runs don't come back. Blessings
Patti

[addy]

Hi Valerie,

Are you still using the Tylan?

Sorry to hear about Daisy but Marianne might have a good point since Daisy was having trouble with loose stools prior to the Trilostane.

There is some thought that higher cortisol levels may cause continuing bacterial infections which allows inflammatory bowel disease. If Daisy Mae 's loose stools seem to respond to antibiotics, it may be that is the case and that the Trilostane has nothing to do with it. In Zoe's case, she has antibiotic responsive inflammatory bowel disease. IBD can only be diagnosed with certainty through endoscopy with biopsy. We had problems when we started Trilostane and each dose change in the early days was a problem but Zoe got through it by going low and slow. Every dog is different but it might be something to think about.;):)

[doxiesrock912]

Ladies,
Daisy has been on the Tylan powder without stopping since I got it for her. Dr. Morgan also thinks that it is the Trilo and you are correct Marianne as to why we haven't done another ACTH test.

If she continues to do well on the 7.5mg twice a day, we will do one soon. So far, her pot belly has returned but the excessive eating and drinking are once again under control.

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Valerie,
Just popping in to check on you and Miss Daisy. I am glad that she continues to do well on her current Trilostane dosage. :) Crossing my fingers that her stomach stays settled. How is you dad doing? Did his VA benefits get sorted out? Xxxxx

[milosmom]

just popping in to see what the latest is with out litl daisy mae....sending much xoxox and healing energy your way valerie.looking forward to a better day tomorrow !!! :) patty (milo)meka xoxo

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
I thin the Tylan powder seems to have done the trick for Miss Daisy. I am hoping she continues to do well. Are you getting any storms? Is Daisy afraid of them? Blessings
patti

[doxiesrock912]

Ladies,
Daisy continues to do well on the 7.5mg twice a day. I suspect that part of her earlier problems were exasperated by whatever the infection was that she had because the Tylan is really doing the trick and so far, there are no signs that the current dosage of Trilo is bothering her. YEAH!!!!! Finally, maybe?

Daisy's only complaint about the rain is that she's not thrilled to go outside in it. Otherwise, she's never been afraid but will occasionally pop her head up if there is a loud clap of thunder. We're so lucky to not have experienced this kind of fear. It sounds terrible for everyone.

Dad's VA benefits are coming in, but we're waiting for the back pay, almost a years worth. His doctor and social worker wrote letters stating that he is competent enough to handle his affairs. Now we wait for the VA's response to that.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Finally success for Daisy! I bet she is feeling like her old self. It is wonderful to hear good things happening for a good person. Glad everything is working out for your dad. Sooner or later it will all come together. Wishing more good news for you and Daisy. Blessings
Patti

[addy]

Good news, I hope the Tylan keeps working for Daisy Mae. You may need to keep her on it daily while lowering her cortisol. Perhaps then you wont have to start and stop and can finally bring her numbers down.

Crossing fingers and paws

[Budsters Mom]

Go Daisy, Go Daisy,!:D Love to hear your great news!:D

[molly muffin]

I'm so glad that Daisy is doing well. That infection really did a number on her and I wonder if that has something to do with why her post number continued to be high on the ACTH test. Hoping the Tylan continues to work and can get rid of that.
Would be nice to get the backpay from the VA. Hope that is all worked out soon.

hugs
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Trixie]

Sounds like good news all around Valerie! For Daisy and your Dad too. Tylan worked like that for Trixie too. Glad her Trilo dose is holding steady now. Keep it up Daisy!! :p

Barbara

[Simba's Mom]

Yay Daisy Mae, glad she is feeling better, hope it continues, and for you Dad too....

[doxiesrock912]

Thanks everyone!
Daisy's belly looks HUGE today but grandpa ALSO gave her breakfast this morning and the bugger ate Gracie's cat food. This explains why she left some of her dinner. she certainly couldn't fit in anymore!

Otherwise, her fur is starting to look good again :)

[goldengirl88]

Shame on you Daisy Mae, stealing the kitties food!!!!! Tell your mom you are a survivalist, when you get hungry you go for it girl you get that kitty food!!!! Yum Yum Yum

[doxiesrock912]

What a day! Daisy seems to be doing well :)
I have now repositioned the baby gate so that Gracie can sneak under and get her food and water but Daisy can't.


Gracie kitty found the one loose clamp in a screen and got outside!
I found her chilling on the back lawn, she didn't even run away so thankfully I was able to scoop her right up.

[Squirt's Mom]

Hi Valerie,

I wanted to comment on a comment you made on another thread concerning Lysodren losing effect over the night. Just some info for your further education. ;)


Originally Posted by doxiesrock912
Donna, it seems that the Lyso wears off by night time since Astro's symptoms return then? I don't know much about this medication since Daisy is on Vetyrol but if it works the same, that could be the problem...

Lysodren does not wear off over the night like Trilostane (Vetoryl) can. Lysodren is just reaching its peak 48 hours after the dose. The two drugs work very differently. Trilo goes to work fast and leaves fast while Lyso takes time to reach the objective and stays in the body much longer. Trilo requires daily dosing, Lyso does not once the objective has been reached. Both do the same job - just differently, both have the same risks and adverse effects, both are life savers.

Hope this helps.
Hugs,
Leslie and the gang

[Budsters Mom]

Valerie,
The fun is over for Daisy! No more cat food snacks for her!:D I am thrilled that she's doing well. Xxxxxx

[Trixie]

Glad you discovered your Gracie before she did any distant exploring! :)

Barbara

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
What is happening on the cat food front? Is Daisy still trying to get at the food? Cat food is awful stuff so she must be hungry to eat that stuff. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Thanks Leslie,
I wasn't sure if it worked the same and I did say that in my post :)

[doxiesrock912]

Daisy will eat anything that she can get at and cat food is a treat as far as she's concerned. I have finally outsmarted her though!

Bwaaahaaahaaaaa! I placed a baby gate at the foot of the stairs where I feed Gracie with enough room for her to get underneath but Daisy can't :)

Thanks Barbara, I freaked out since this was a first time escape for Gracie so I had no idea what she would do. Thankfully, she didn't even run. Just stared at me until I picked her up.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Glad you have settled the cat food issue with Miss Daisy. She is probably cursing you out in doggy language!. Hope she is still doing well on the Tylan. How long can she take that for??? Blessings
Patti

[Trish]

Your up late Valerie, all good on the Daisy front??

[labblab]

Marianne,

sometimes. as in Daisy's case. The right dose of Trilo needed to completely alleviate her Cushings symptoms is too much for her to handle. So, the numbers will not be textbook perfect but close enough.

Dr. Morgan said that her quality of life is more important than having what they consider to be ideal numbers.
Hi Val,

I saw that you had posted this reply directed to me on another member's thread, and I want to respond to you but thought it better to do so on your own thread so that we can continue the conversation here.

I do understand that optimal trilo dosing will vary from dog to dog depending upon their own individual set of circumstances, and that you are shooting for a combination of good lab results, symptom resolution, and animal comfort.

However, at the time of Daisy's only monitoring ACTH in April, not only were her results less than ideal -- they were absolutely uncontrolled (post-ACTH of 35 ug/dl). This would be a high result even for a dog that was not taking any medication whatsoever. With a cortisol level that high, it is hard to imagine that any of the chronic systemic dangers associated with Cushing's were being lessened. At that time, you were dosing Daisy at 5 mg. twice daily. Since that time, I think you've bounced between 5 - 7.5 mg. twice daily, with periods of time when she's received no trilostane at all. If you consistently remain on the 7.5 mg. for awhile, hopefully you will see improvement in Daisy's cortisol control on the next test.

I surely do understand that a vet will not choose to press for low numbers on an ACTH test at the expense of the overall comfort and well-being of the dog. But I admit to finding it puzzling that Dr. Morgan seems to be content to permit Daisy to proceed with cortisol levels that may remain absolutely and totally uncontrolled, especially since it now appears as though her diarrhea has been the result of an infection rather than a side effect of a more optimal dose of trilostane.

I really, really hope that you can leave Daisy on a consistent dose of trilo from now on, and that the next ACTH test will show some improvement in her numbers. No, numbers are not everything. But if you are not lowering the cortisol into a range that would offer the potential for genuine benefit, there is no reason to be giving the medication at all. I do have to wonder whether some of the external signs by which you are judging Daisy's progress are really accurate. For instance, you note changes in her belly and coat within a matter of a day or two of starting or stopping dosing. Those are two effects of Cushing's that typically take weeks (even months) to resolve, even when cortisol levels are indeed at an optimal level.

Of course, the bottom line is that if you and Dr. Morgan are satisfied with Daisy's condition and progress, my own thoughts and speculation make no difference. But I did want to respond to your reply by telling you why Daisy's cortisol control (or lack of cortisol control) has been a concern to me.

Marianne

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Yes these insurance companies are ridiculous. Why even bother having it if they don't have a way for me to get drugs in an emergency situation and not pay 60.00 an Rx for them?? I am going to call them and discuss this when I get time. Glad Daisy is continuing to do well. This heat and humidity is really bothering Tipper, she only walked once today as I have to keep her legs going too. Blessings
Patti

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
I am with you on that. Why even have the insurance then?? I read what you said about the cleaning and had to laugh. Every time something is going on with Tipper and I am nervous, I have to keep busy and clean. It keeps my mind off of things. I just cannot sit I have to do something physical too. How is Daisy getting along? How long are you going to keep her on the Tylan? Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Pattii don't have insurance and can't afford $587 a month for COBRA. Daisy will be on tylan for 6 weekWe're going to Now that she's back on Trilo, she's improving. Her belly looks much better already, just waiting for her fur to catch up.

Today will be a long day. I'm sitting in Smilow Cancer Hospital waiting for dad. Chest and brain CTs. We're going to be here until at least 5pm.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
God Bless you and your dad. I pray all goes well for him.
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Thanks Patti,

it's a miracle that he's doing as well as he is considering that he had stage 3B lung cancer.

[molly muffin]

Hope all went well with your dad today Valerie!

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
I am anxious to hear how things went for your dad. I hope all is well, and with little Miss Daisy too. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Hi everyone,
we probably won't know the results of the scans until Monday.
Hoping for continued good news. Dad has these scans everything 3 months or so to make sure that he's still cancer free.

[Budsters Mom]

We only know what the tests show. They don't mean EVERYTHING! I have seen unexplained miracles happen. They are real!sending positive energy and prayers your way. Xxxxx

[Trish]

I hope you get good news about your Dad on Monday Valerie, I did with my Dad this week! So hope your Dad follows suit xx

[doxiesrock912]

Ladies,
we've been doing this routine for almost a year now and so far, the scans have come back clean.

Thanks for the prayers and I know that miracles happen. Since his cancer treatment; we almost lost him several times but that didn't happen.

xo

[Trixie]

Fantastic news on your Dad!! :D Yay!!

Barbara

[doxiesrock912]

Thanks everyone but we don't have news yet. Monday I'm sure.

Trish, what happened with your dad?

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Tipper and I are keeping are fingers, and paws crossed that all comes out well for you Dad. We pray for you both. Blessings
Patti

[Trish]

Hi Valerie
We found out he had some mild anaemia earlier in the year, his physician ordered an ultrasound that showed a small renal tumour and an aortic aneurysm. Both do not need surgery at this stage, but we need to rescan in 6 mths to check they are not growing. He had a small stroke after a hip replacement 3 years ago, he recovered fully from that so everyone is hesitant to proceed with surgery if we can get away with it.

But the physician did not think either of those two conditions were responsible for the anaemia so referred to gastroenterologist who did a gastroscopy and colonoscopy on Tuesday. He found polyps, about 20 of them! Removed about half of them and Dad has to go back in 6 weeks to get the rest out. I was very impressed with their reporting, Dad got a letter in the mail yesterday only 4 days postop to tell him they have all come back non malignant!!

He is 81 next month, still pretty fit and walks Flynn about 3km every day so we told them he has to do well!! So yay, we were celebrating as had been half expecting something nasty as he had lost a few kilo's and a few bowel changes! So that was his good news :) Thanks for asking and fingers crossed your Dad has good scan results again!

[doxiesrock912]

Trish,

that's amazing! 20 polyps! Thank God they were benign!
Flynn will have grandpa around for quite some time :)

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
How is Daisy doing? I am anticipating a good report for your Dad next week, we are praying for you both.
Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Today was a not so nice morning. I was awake at 3:30am so I took Daisy outside to do her business. My father told me that he woke up to find A LOT of poop throughout the kitchen so I don't know what happened.

Hoping for a better day tomorrow.

We did get in a long walk tonight after the sun set. The humidity has finally subsided!

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Sorry to hear of the troubles the woke you up. I think a good report for you father is in order. Did Daisy some how get in the cat food? Hoping for a better day for you two. Blessings
Patti

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Valerie,
That doesn't sound good. How did the rest of Daisy's day go? A long long walk is a good sign. That means that she's not feeling too bad?xxxx

[doxiesrock912]

Daisy is fine today so I'm almost positive that she got into cat food or poop the other day.

Still waiting for dad's results. Praying that no news is good news.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Glad to hear Daisy is still doing well. How are things going with your dad? Blessings
Patti

[infoviewer]

Glad Daisy Mae is ok this morning. Dachshunds love any kind of poo or any kind of food I think, at least CoCo does. I have to take him out on a leash in the back since we have squirrels and rabbits and I have even seen wild turkeys back there, so he would have a ball looking for poo. Hope your dad gets good news today. Love, JoAnne

[doxiesrock912]

JoAnne,

Daisy is no exception to that gross behavior! She's even dined on goose poop.
Yes, we stick to a leash as well but they're so low to the grown that it's often too late to stop.

[Simba's Mom]

oh Daisy Mae, goose poo, you never know what doxies will get into..sending hugs for you and your Dad, prayers too...and Daisy Mae just say no to poo..

[doxiesrock912]

She's never been able to say "no". :)
Poop = doggy crack.

I have a call into the doctor for dad's CT results. No one called me back yesterday.

[molly muffin]

Hope dad and Daisy both continue to do well. And Daisy stays out of things she shouldn't be in! That little miss does have a way of finding herself into everything. LOL

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[doxiesrock912]

Daisy behaved today and dad's scans are CLEAR!!!!!
Another doctor visit and scan in three months.

Happy dance!

[Budsters Mom]

Hallelujah!!!!!Great news all around!!!!! What a relief!!! Big hugs for all!

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
That is glorious news. Maybe you can make dad something special for dinner and have a little celebration. I am so happy for you, you are on the uphill swing now, so don't let anything drag you down. You have had too much grief lately, and you need some happy! God Bless you, dad, and Daisy.
Patti

[Squirt's Mom]

Great news on your dad, Valerie! WOOHOO!!! :cool::cool::cool:

[infoviewer]

That is great on your dad Valerie. So hard waiting for testing to come back. My husband has prostate cancer and just had his PSA last Monday and it was great. So we are happy campers until the next one. Hope Daisy Mae is not into anything bad today. Love, JoAnne

[Simba's Mom]

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Trixie]

Great news on your Dad's scans!! Fantastic! :D

Barbara

[molly muffin]

Awesome news for both Daisy and your dad!

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[doxiesrock912]

Thank you!
This has been a VERY trying past two years, that's for sure.
Now I need a JOB.

Dad's new doc keeps insisting that we come in for earlier appointments which will put us right in the midst of rush hour traffic and this drive is long enough without that mess and dad has a bad back, hip, and knees. Less sitting in a car is much better for him.
Dad 's previous doctor was GREAT! He accommodated whatever we needed and we're dealing with the same place so I don't see why things are so difficult now.

I'm pushing back because there is no reason why we can't come in two hours later. I think he prefers to schedule existing patients in the morning and new later in the day. Well, he's going to have to make an exception. Seriously!!!

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
I agree with you, that is really an inconvenience for you and your dad, not to mention you have sweet Daisy waiting for you at home. I am sure you don't like leaving her any longer than you have to. I would do exactly what you said and the Dr. will have to learn to be a little more flexible. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Thanks Patti,
I think this is ridiculous, it's not like I'm asking him to come in on his day off.

Honestly, he doesn't even do anything other than listen to dad's lungs, ask a few questions, and look at the scans which are done just before the appointment. He needs no special equipment so the only change would be to his schedule.

I could see if there were diagnostic equipment that needed to be in the office or something like that, but he doesn't need that.
We may spend 15 - 20 minutes with the doctor. If that is too much of an inconvenience, he should find a new career :)

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
I agree with you. Sometimes these Dr.'s need to use some common sense, and have a little inconvenience on their end. They always put in on the patient. There is no reason he cannot do those few things for your dad at a more convenient time for you two. I stopped putting up with crap from Dr.'s a long time ago when I started with Lupus. They ran me everywhere never caring that I had a life too. Now I do things my way and they have to adapt to it, or I just don't go. Hope Daisy is enjoying some cool weather, we are to get storms tomorrow. I may put Tipper in the car and get out of here. Blessings
Patti

[Budsters Mom]

What is wrong with these doctors? Don't they care anymore? Big hugs Valerie. Xxxxx

[doxiesrock912]

Congrats to your husband JoAnne!

[doxiesrock912]

A road trip sounds like fun for you and Tipper Patti.

[doxiesrock912]

Idk Kathy. It seems that some with a higher education also have a holier than thow attitude and forget why the patients are there. It's not for a social visit.

I think that I'm going to have to call again since no one has called me back to sort this out. Ridiculous.

[doxiesrock912]

Ha! We switched doctor's for dad so no more fighting Mr. Holier than Thow.

Daisy isn't herself today. She reluctantly ate breakfast and almost didn't eat dinner until I drizzled water on it. Then she ate it all. Weird.

[Simba's Mom]

Praying things go better for your Dad and that little Daisy Mae is more like herself tomorrow! Hang in there Valerie....

[doxiesrock912]

Thanks Letti,

it's been pouring rain for most of the day and Daisy despises having to go out in it. That could be part of her problem.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
You are doing a great job for your dad. I would go to another Dr. too. Wonder what is up with Daisy and the food? Hope all goes well with the new person. Some people that have certain letters after their names think that they are Gods, so I know what you mean. A title after your name goes very far with some people.
Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Not with me Patti,
if I'm paying them then they work for ME and they'd better show respect, listen, and accommodate reasonable requests. I don't care what is before or after their names.

Without patients, that title doesn't mean a damn thing in my book.

[Trixie]

After the day we had here yesterday I am also thinking the rain really screws Trixie up! Hope that's all it is for Daisy too.

Glad you found a new doc for your Dad! You're exactly right...without the patients we wouldn't need doctors now would we???
I have found that getting good care for the elderly is not always easy.
Hoping your Dad continues to do well and good luck with the new doctor.

Barbara :)

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
You are so right. I am glad your dad has you to help him. It seems everything you try to do today has problems, at least that is how I feel. It is one thing after another. Just keep being an advocate for you dear father and things will go well for him. How is Miss Daisy doing? Have a good weekend. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

We had to go down to once a day dosing this weekend because Daisy just wasn't herself and wasn't eating much. She's perked up quite a bit so we'll see if she eats in the morning and will go from there.

Seems like these adjustments never end, but I'm grateful that I know her well enough to take a break from the meds.

[infoviewer]

Thanks Valerie. We all need good news once in awhile. Hope your dad and daisy continue to improve. Keeping you in my prayers for finding a job. Love, JoAnne

[Squirt's Mom]

Did Daisy have an ACTH to check her levels? Any other signs it may be too low? How is she today?

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
It's a good thing Daisy has a good mom to know when she needs a trilo break. Hope this is the solution and you both have a good week. I know you have always had to do adjustments with her meds, so you know when she is showing signs of needing it. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Luckily for us, it's obvious when Daisy's cortisol is too low.
She starts becoming less interested in food until she completely snubs a meal and she becomes lethargic. The signs are obvious.

The IMS agrees with how I'm handling this because on the lower dose, Daisy's fur was dry and brittle again, her pot belly came back, and she was crazy thirsty. So the 10mg in the morning and 7.5mg at night seems to be the perfect balance with a break here when necessary.

Daisy's IMS also said that her quality of life is most important and that sometimes dogs can be super responsive to Trilo and we just have to watch and adjust as needed. She also said that their levels can change too which makes it tricky.

She's due for another ACTH test, but I wanted to get her back to her perky self before attempting that.

Her thirst has decreased, eating is normal except for the times when she needs a break, fur is shiny and growing back in places, no pot belly, and I don't detect muscle wasting so what we're doing is working.

[Simba's Mom]

So happy for you and Daisy Mae, you are a great Mom to sweet Daisy Mae, still love that name!!!

[molly muffin]

Hope Daisy is doing better!

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[doxiesrock912]

Ladies,
Daisy was a super pip today! Normal energy, I didn't have to coax her to go outside or to eat - so we'll start back up with Trilo tomorrow.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Good news that Daisy is back to herself. I am glad you help remind people about the daily doggie diary they should keep. I write in Tipper's diary first thing in the morning so I don't forget to do it. It has helped me reference many things that have gone on with her, and when she had what at the vets. I don't have to look thru a long file of vet papers then. I just highlight important things in the diary and can find them real easy. It is cool here this morning, but the heat and humidity are to return soon. Hope you and baby have a good day. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Patti,

thank you:)
It's hard to remember everything. Diaries work well.

[doxiesrock912]

Ugh!
Daisy was full of energy today but had diarrhea this morning and very loose stools tonight. We'll see what tomorrow brings.

[molly muffin]

One day up, the next down, it's a constant roller coaster sometimes.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[doxiesrock912]

Yes it is Sharlene.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Just took Tipper walking and she panted the whole time. Not sure if she is already sensing the oncoming storm, probably feeling the barometric pressure change. How is Miss Daisy this morning? Has she been able to go out and tolerate the weather? Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Awwww, sometimes I wish that these furlets weren't as sensitive as they are Patti. I'll bet that she is sensing the storm.

Daisy and I have been loving the lack of humidity! She's taking us for walks now :)

[Budsters Mom]

If she's walking you, That's a good thing! Daisy certainly has had her share of up and down, poor thing. Hang in there Valerie. Sometimes that's all we can do. :o

I hope your dad's financial situation is finally getting sorted out.:rolleyes: xxxxx

[doxiesrock912]

Kathy,

things are improving and dad now gets additional funds from the VA. We're waiting for the retroactive money though which could take another 6 months.

Daisy is holding her own today. Dad's aid was vacuuming and she barked non-stop.

[Simba's Mom]

Way to go Daisy Mae, talking Mom for walk, hugs Valerie!!

[Budsters Mom]

Go get that vacuum monster Daisy! How dare it invade your space!:D
Glad to hear that daisy is holding her own and your dad's money is starting to come through. YAY!

[spdd]

Just catching up on Daisy. I certainly feel for you re the ups and downs. It's hard on us as well as our babies.
It's one day at a time for sure and I certainly like it when there are no surprises for a day.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Glad Daisy is having more ups than downs for now. It is always like a roller coaster with this disease. We are having rain and humid weather today, last nite was so much thunder that Tipper was exhausted from worry. We never nap during the day, but may make an exception today! Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Patti,
it's been raining off and on and becoming steadily more humid. Gross:(
I can't handle the humidity myself so I can imagine how Daisy's low to the ground body feels.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
I know about this humidity it is a killer with my Tipper because of her breathing. She really has a hard time. When it rises we stay in as it is too hard on her heart. The things these poor dogs have to contend with from this disease is criminal. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Hi Patti,

I can't take the humidity either :) I think it's because I grew up with two lakes right there for me to access every day. Always had quick relief available.

Today wasn't quite as bad. Chris (my fiance) was here and Daisy LOVES him! She insisted that HE take her for a walk. How she does this is that she'll turn her head around and look to be sure that everyone she wants to go for the walk is there. It's hilarious! She does the same thing to my father.

If everyone isn't following, she'll follow the non-compliant person back to the house.

[Trish]

HI Valerie - I hate humidity as well, thank goodness not too bad where I live even in the middle of summer. Glad Miss Daisy got her way with the walkies companions haha that made me smile :):)

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
That is too funny about Daisy with her followers. I am very anxious about Tipper's ultra sound on Friday, it is eating away at me and I am a nervous wreck about what will be found. If she is having Gallbladder issues that could explain why she moans sometimes when I lift her. I wish the test was tomorrow. The waiting is when I get wired up. Blessings
Patti

[Simba's Mom]

oh Daisy Mae, you are such a character, you make me smile!!!

[molly muffin]

Daisy is soo funny~! That girl knows what she wants and how to go about getting it~ Line up, move out!

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[doxiesrock912]

Yeah, she is the model for stubbornness but I ultimately win that prize_lol.

Any recommendations to improve the health of her fur? She's looking dull dry lately.

[Budsters Mom]

I always added a little EVOL (Extra-virgin olive oil) to Buddy's and now Rosie's food in the morning. It makes their hair soft and it's and is good for skin too. I'm not sure about Daisy though with her diarrhea issues. You might not want to add fat to her diet.:confused:xxxx

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
I use Vitamin E every day with Tipper and she has had no hair or skin issues except underneath her paws where the hair mats and gets like a rock. I thought with her allergic history she would have all kinds of skin issues, but we have none thank God. That is one worry we do not have right now. The vet told me no more than 150 mg per day. I could only find 100mg so that is what I give her. I just drop the whole gel capsule into her food in the morning and she eats it right down. Hope this works as I would also be cautious of the olive oil because of Daisy's diarrhea. I do also give Tipper coconut oil every day, which is great for them. You have to be careful on the amount though as it will make loose greasy stools if you over do it, so it is probably not an option for Daisy. Blessings

[doxiesrock912]

Thank you for the tips! I'll look into vitamin E for her.

[goldengirl88]

Hi Valerie:
Cool here today and Tipper had 2 walks before our Vet visit today. Hard to believe she took her 8th shot today. I am glad it is done, but she needs a booster once a month now. How is Daisy and what has she been up to lately? How is you dad doing? I think of you both often. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Patti,
everyone is fine. Dad forgot to shut the baby gate and Daisy ate Gracie's cat food. She looks HUGE. Thankfully, cat food doesn't make her sick!

Two walks! Her leg must be feeling better!

[Budsters Mom]

That cat food must taste a whole lot better than her food! Oh Daisy!:rolleyes:

[doxiesrock912]

It's like a treat for her. Made with salmon and you can smell it.
Daisy's rule, if it smells like crap, I WANT IT.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Your Dad will be in real trouble if Daisy starts meowing!! Daisy likes the smelly stuff, no wonder she goes for the cat food then as it always stinks like garbage to me. Otherwise she is fine?Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Oh Daisy...she must have gobbled down that cat food happily! :p Trixie would love some of that fishy stuff! Glad it doesn't cause any tummy upset for Daisy.

Barbara

[doxiesrock912]

Daisy is fine but she had to poop 4 times today which is a lot so I think that the stinky salmon has cleaned out her insides. Cat food = doggy enemy apparently.
That's just nasty.

My father went to visit the neighbor while Daisy and I were outside. You should've seen me try to keep her from following him! Daisy ADORES grandpa :)

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Oh Yikes she had to get that stinky smelly crape out of her literally. I guess that is why cat pooh smells so bad because of the junk they eat. Hope she is doing fine other wise. How is she doing on her weight. I can't remember is she on or off the Tylan now? Have a good weekend, but I know the heat is supposed to return here. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Patti,

Daisy Mae "monster" is fine today and less bloated so that cat food caused more than mega poops apparently. Luckily, this too shall pass :) I know, that was a VERY lame pun but I had to do it.

It's a quality dry cat food made with a lot of salmon which makes it smell. On the bright side, just imagine if the food had caused gas!!!! That could be deadly to humans and I would market it for chemical warfare :)

Hmmm. That could work. It would go something like this "Loud neighbors keeping you awake at all hours? Send Daisy to their yard, point her butt first and give her blah blah cat food. Guaranteed to work within minutes!"

How are you and Tipper feeling? We opened the windows today and came home only to close them and turn the air conditioners back on. Last night was heavenly cool though!!!!

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
You gave me such a laugh, you are too funny. I can just picture what you said- too-too funny. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Haha...:D Too funny Valerie. Daisy--the newest thing in gas warfare. :D

Barbara

[Budsters Mom]

Daisy is not the newest thing in gas warfare. I have two 80 year olds in the house! Now that is gas warfare! LOL :D

[doxiesrock912]

Kathy,

Daisy accepts your challenge - bwaahaahaaaa!
Remember, she's got that long dachshund body with a lot of room to store that gas :)

Ladies - I'm happy to provide that much needed laugh and you can see my show every night after 11pm.

[Budsters Mom]

Valerie,
What's up with Daisy May? Has she had any more yummy kitty food tidbits?

How about your dad? How is he doing? Xxxx

[Trixie]

Kathy..that's funny! Seems like Valerie thinks Daisy can beat your senior citizens! :D

[doxiesrock912]

Trixie,

I also have a senior at home and Daisy "blows" him away!

Here's how it goes.

sniff...sniff....(Dad)
"Awwww GAWDDDDDDD!"

Daisy seems to be doing well and is on the original 10mg x 2 that the IMS specialist wanted her to start with in the beginning. So, I've come to the conclusion that it was not the Trilostane that she was reacting badly to in the beginning; it was whatever the underlying infection was in her system that the Tylan powder seems to have taken care of.

It has not been humid here so Daisy is back to her usual self wanting to take walks etc. Yes, she even got into the cat food AGAIN and her belly looks like it although it could be the Cushings pot belly returning too. A few days of careful monitoring and exercise gets rid of the belly if it's related to the extra food that she doesn't need. Time will tell.

We're due for an ACTH test but at the moment I just can't afford it. Her symptoms are controlled well, fur is growing back and there are no new skin problems so all of this indicated that she's doing well :)

Thankfully, I have nothing new to report and hope that I haven't just jinxed Daisy and I by typing that!

Annabelle Lee kitty will be coming for a visit this weekend while Chris goes to Ohio for his daughter's 18th birthday. I can't go this time which is ok.


Dad has not been as faithful with his breathing treatments as I and the doctors would like him to be and he's been coughing more lately. We have an appointment at Smilow with the new doctor that I asked for (October) so hopefully nothing will show up and I really can't wait until the day that they truly declare him cancer free. I get nervous every three months.

Chris told me that his daughter will be with us for Christmas this year so I AM ECSTATIC!!!! This will be the first time that she's spent it with us and my father. I would like them to get to know each other.

Sorry for rambling, lots going on but at least I have no bad news :) YIPPEEEE!!!!!

I've been quiet here lately, but I do come online at least once a day and sometimes more to look in on all of you. <3

[Simba's Mom]

So glad to hear that Daisy Mae is maintaining her dose, such a blessing for normal days with these cush pups...her gas story is hilarious, such a lady lol.....she's pretty sneaky getting into the cat food..keep it up Daisy Mae, means your feeling good....hugs

[molly muffin]

So glad to hear that Daisy is doing well. Those are all good signs. Well, other than the cat food tasting. :)

Aww, poor dad, he has to do his breathing stuff. My sister was finally declared cancer free after her breast cancer. It was a real relief to get that news, even though all her subsequent tests had been good. You just want to Hear it!

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[doxiesrock912]

Thanks everyone:)
Without the humidity, there is a real difference in her energy level as well.

Dad has a stubborn streak when it comes to the breathing treatments.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Glad to hear Daisy is still doing well. The humidity came back with a vengeance today so it is not safe for Tipper to walk today. Hope all goes well and you dad is cancer free. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Thank you Patti,

humidity is better than storms. Tipper gets to take the day off today and both of you can hopefully get some rest. Always thinking of you both and praying that all goes well with the surgeon and that she has viable options for Tipper.

[infoviewer]

Glad Daisy Mae is doing well. Hope your dad is doing well also. Love, JoAnne

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
I guess I have to use the Benadryl when we are going to have a storm as my vet never got back to me as usual. We are supposed to have them Saturday and Sunday. Tipper stayed in all day yesterday as the humidity was too dangerous for her breathing, and she was really bored. Tipper tends to make up little games when she wants to be naughty. Her favorite is bulldozing everything in her path, then she just looks at you like well fix it. Glad Daisy Mae is over the runs and I bet you and she are glad also. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

That's too funny Patti. I'll have you send her over the next time dad wants to till that lawn and replant grass :)

Can you encourage Tipper to play fetch or something inside to relieve some of the boredom?

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
She loves her ball we play it all the time. She can catch a 1 inch or 2 inch ball from quite a long distance, she is exceptional at it. My yorkie learned it from watching her. I have been using that to check her vision too, and make sure she is still seeing well. She really still plays with toys, but her attention span is not what it was . So when she gets naughty she puts her head to the ground and floors it. Everything in her path is bulldozed, cats included-that is her secret favorite thing to do, she actually snickers looking at them. She knocks them over like bowling pins, and just dares them to complain. She is quite the comedian. I just took her potty and it is miserable out there, hope Daisy can cope with this darn humidity, and gheez here come the storms again for the weekend. I guess I better get the Benadryl out. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Thank you everyone for the Daisy kudos. Dad has been sleeping more lately, but he seems well otherwise.

OMG Patti!
That is hilarious and I would love to see a video of this!

[goldengirl88]

Valerie;'
I will have to try and get one. You know they never do what you are talking about when you want them to. Not that I like the bulldozing, but I should capture that stunt on video, or the IPhone. Hope you dad is not bothered by this humidity and continues to do well. You two have had it hard. Blessing
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Patti,
it's easy to do on the iPhone although I'm not sure that this site supports their video format.

I do have an iPod Touch that I can watch it on so if you're lucky enough to catch Tipper in the act :) my email address is doxiesrock912@gmail.com.
Then I can try to make the video into a format that can be shared here if you'd like me to.

Daisy hasn't wanted to deal with the humidity today either and frankly, neither do I so I can't blame our furlets one bit.

Sad day for us today. Neighbors that have lived next door for 6 years and have been absolutely WONDERFUL with helping me with the house and dad when needed. While I was working and still in Cos Cob, dad was in and out of the hospital etc., these people cared for his cat EVERY DAY, mowed the lawn, helped me to clear the snow, and kept an eye on the property. They're being foreclosed upon and we're having their whole family over for pizza tonight.

The mom, Jeannie told me that dad made her daughters cry because they saw him outside wiping tears from his face. Oh poo, I'm crying now too.

They also helped when mom was alive and battling Parkinsons. Jeannie helped dad pick her up after a fall when I was not there.

Their daughter Brianna locker herself out of the house and I of course told her to call her mother and tell her that she was at our house. I happened to be raking leaves and she said that she "liked" to rake leaves and ended up helping me until her mother got home.

Recently, dad's battery died completely on his van. Brian, (husband) went to Walmart and bought and installed the battery for him.

Sorry for rambling.

[molly muffin]

Oh Valerie, that is so sad. They sound like such good neighbors to have too. :(

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly muffin

[Trish]

Crikey, that is awful. They sound like the best kind of neighbours. I hope they get resettled somewhere else but how tough for them all and you, so nice to know there are reliable people close by when you need them. Glad to hear Daisy is doing good! xx

[doxiesrock912]

They are the best, and I doubt that we'll ever have neighbors like them again.
Everyone in the neighborhood is upset by this.

[Trixie]

Valerie--It's so sad reading about your neighbors....got a lump in my throat thinking how it upset your father...what a shame you have to lose such a nice family from next door.
Barbara

[Budsters Mom]

That is so sad about your neighbors Valerie. Unfortunately there are many people that are in the same shape as they are. There should be something that can be done to help them out. :( Vent anytime. Xxxx

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
There was a piece on Dateline last nite about foreclosure did you see it. It followed a family for 4 years that was going thru this in California. That is so sad, and to happen to such a wonderful family. This country needs to get turned around. Yesterday on the news here it said 1500 lost their jobs in Cleveland at Bank Of America, who received millions in bail out money. They said the Northeast of Ohio has been hit the most of any area in the country losing jobs. Small wonder all the robberies and killings in Cleveland and surrounding areas. Hey I am from Pittsburgh, and I am not used to hearing all this bad stuff. Would hate to live up by there! It seems we are not doing anything to help the people suffering from job loss, going even so far as cutting off their unemployment compensation. I hope this family gets some help and can start a new life, that is so heart breaking to hear. Blessings
Patti

[Simba's Mom]

So sorry to hear about your good neighbors, it really doesn't surprise me anymore the way the nation is going....so sad....how's little Daisy Mae doing? hugs and prayers too

[doxiesrock912]

Thank you everyone. They're moving out this weekend even though they still have some time. Brian that they want to avoid any attempts at eviction from the bank.

Letti, it's ironic that you say this because their original mortgage was from Gmac. Once the government took them over, the mortgages were sold to MidFirst Bank and i have been reading many stories of people going through foreclosures with this specific bank and all mention how the bank does not want to work with people AT ALL. Honestly, I think that MidFirst is more interested in obtaining homes to flip them, not to carry mortgages.

So, as far as I'm concerned, our own government played a huge part in this family and others losing their homes.

Daisy continues to do well :) Her fur is finally starting to get shiny again and her bald spots have all grown back! Aside from when it's humid, her energy level has greatly improved too.

[spdd]

I have never in my life seen anything like the problems the U.S. is having with home owners, foreclosures and losses. My brother and other family members live in Vermont. He can't even sell his house cause he'd get less for it then what is owed. People work so hard all their lives and to have this happen is completely a tragedy.

It's a complete shame what has happened to your neighbours. Why is it that bad things always happen to good people? It is just plain unfair.

Glad to hear Daisy is doing so well. Great news!!

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
It is so tragic to hear all this about you wonderful neighbors, I hope things turn around for them. I hold a Real Estate License and sold for 30 years off and on. This was all coming about when I got out of the business for good, because of increased demands of my other job. Real Estate is not a part time job, and not easy like some think it is. You can work with someone for months and not get paid. My girl friend who worked with me calls me weekly, and the horror stories she tells me are unreal. Hope it all works out. Hope you, your dad, and Daisy have a good holiday weekend. Blessings
Patti

[Budsters Mom]

Bumping up......

What is happening with Daisy Mae. Haven't heard much lately.. I hope you are managing to keep her out if that yummy kitty food. ;) xxxx

[doxiesrock912]

Kathy,

Daisy is doing well thankfully.

Annabelle Lee cat is staying with us for 2 weeks while my fiance visits his family in Ohio for his daughter's 18th birthday.

3am this morning, we hear the cats fighting inside of the house! THEY BROKE MY BEDROOM WINDOW! I seriously can't believe that one of them body slammed the other 4 feet off of the ground into my bedroom window!

I don't know what changed, but we did not have this problem the last time that Annabelle stayed with dad and I.

I hope that the rest of you are doing well!

[Budsters Mom]

OMG Valerie! :eek::eek::eek:I think a couple of kitties need a big timeout! I hope you are keeping them separated now! What a way to wake up at 3 o'clock in the morning! Where was Daisy when all of this took place?

I am glad to hear she is doing well. Go Daisy!!! As for the naughty cats, you have your hands full! Xxxxx

[molly muffin]

Wow Valerie! I mean I've Heard cats fighting outside, but never heard of a pair breaking a window. That must have been some fight. Are the cats okay? I'm sure that freaked everyone out, what a way to wake up.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[doxiesrock912]

Thankfully,no one was hurt. Daisy was downstairs sound asleep. I screamed and woke Chris up, poor man almost had a heart attack!

The only thing that I can think of is that one of them was already lounging on the window sill when the other jumped up startling both of them. Chris said that he would pay to fix the window.

[Trish]

Oh no... sorry but I did have a wee giggle when I read that! Darn pesky cats!! Sounds like a few territory issues going on there :D Hope you got back to sleep ok after that rude awakening!

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Those darn old kitties, shame on them. One of them must be pretty darn strong to body slam the other and break the window. I would keep that cat well fed, and I would not want him angry at me!!. How is Miss Daisy Mae doing? Hope she is still doing well, and not having any issues. She has been on a roll lately. Blessings
Patti

[Trixie]

Wow Valerie...did the cats break a glass window?? That must have really been a frightening way to wake up!! Glad little Daisy continues to do well!! :D

Barbara

[doxiesrock912]

Daisy continues to do well.
Yes, the cats broke a glass window. They fight less often but I am going to separate them for a few days.

[Boriss McCall]

Oh wow.. that sounds like one crazy cat fight. sorry to hear that..
It would have freaked me out as well.

[doxiesrock912]

Well, the kitties can at least be in the same room as one another without attacking now, so maybe we're getting somewhere?

Saw this video and hope that all of you can access it. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1425532414339183&set=vb.136336876521150&type=2&theater

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Are the cats both the same sex? How did you manage to get them in the same room together without wanting to kill one another. Cats can be vicious to one another if they dislike the other one for some reason. What does Miss Daisy think of these cats? I am glad she continues to do well after all the episodes she has gone thru this year. How is your dad doing? Is Chris back yet? Hope you can get a walk in before the heat and humidity set in, it is already here this morning so Tipper will be in for the day.Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Patti, yes they are and they got along fine the last time that Chris went away and left them with me. The only difference is that Chris has been working late a lot and Annie was home alone for 10 hours a day. Things are getting better. I think they were just working out who is the alpha.

Daisy could care less about them :)
It's been raining here.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
You'll have to put them in kitty time out if they start up again!! I'm sure that will fix their little butts. I know what you mean about the heat. Yesterday 96 and over 60% dew point. Today we got up and it is worse, very thick fog. The doggies are not walking today it is too dangerous. Hope Daisy get thru this hot spell it is supposed to be over by the weekend and cooler air will start the fall weather according to our weatherman. When did Daisy go off the Tylan? No episodes after that?? Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Daisy is still on the Tylan for at least 6 weeks total.

[doxiesrock912]

Daisy Mae hit the double digits today!
She's 10 in human years!

Happy Birthday my sweet puppy <3

[Trixie]

HAPPY 10th BIRTHDAY DAISY!!!! :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :)

With Best Wishes of many more healthy years to come!!!

Barbara & Trixie too!!

[Squirt's Mom]

:):) Happy 10th Birthday, Daisy Mae! :):)

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Happy 10th Birthday to Daisy Mae, and Tipper and I wish for her to have many more. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Happy Birthday Daisy!!!!!!!

and many more!

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[Simba's Mom]

Happy Birthday Sweet Daisy Mae!!!!!