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Abbifoot
01-06-2013, 02:33 PM
Hi

I have been lurking behind the scenes for a few months now since we first suspected Abbi may have Cushings. Not knowing anything about this disease, I set out to learn as much as I could. My search brought me to this wonderful family and I have been following many threads, as well as gone back and read some older ones.

Though I have not posted until today, I have found great comfort in the last couple of months not only in your words, but also in finding a group of people that share similar experiences. I have shed many tears when reading your stories, and prayed many prayers for you and your pups.

Nearly twelve years ago, I set out on a search for the perfect puppy. I am so thankful and honored to have been able to have found Abbi who quickly became my best friend. Since that day, she has gone everywhere and done (almost) everything with me. She even rode on my motorcycle with me during the time when I was without a car. She truly thinks she is a human and is quite insulted when she is not included in all that the family does. We have driven across country together a couple of times, exploring and making wonderful friends, both human and canine. She has this gregarious personality that has at times forced me outside of my shy nature with great reward. (imo) She is the best puppy in the world.

In August, Abbi had a couple of bouts of incontinance. After running a battery of tests, Cushings was suspected and we did an LDDS test, which she suppressed. On the Monday that hurricane Sandy hit the east coast, Abbi had an ultrasound which revealed bi-lateral adrenal tumors. The right mass, larger than the kidney, appears to be a fast growing mass and suspected to be a pheo. Without further testing, it is not known with certainty whether or not these are pheo, carcinoma, or adenoma. Our regular vet has little experience with Cushings and suggested we consider a consult with an IMS but told us the prognosis was poor. The IMS we met with merely confirmed the results of the ultrasound and presented three options - surgery to remove the larger tumor and biopsy the smaller, treat with Lysodren, or do nothing - none of which would be curative.

My entire world went into a spin and this was so difficult to comprehend. We continued to go running every day, after which Abbi would jump into her pool and play to cool off. Everything seemed so normal with her everyday behavior other than the minor geriatric signs that have been slowly showing over the last 18 months. I have cried, prayed, cried, read, researched looking for that miracle cure, and cried some more. After researching and much reading on the surgery, and with the added input of another vet, the risk and trama seem too great to put her through given that this would not even be a cure for her. And, where Abbi does not have any significant signs Cushings, there seems little value to treat with Lysodren. One evening shortly after her ultrasound when I was loving her and giving her a massage, I moved my hand over her shaven belly to the area of her kidney. She lifted her head, looked at me and let out a little cry as if to tell me 'that's where it is maMa, that is where the sickness is and it's REAL'. It is slowly sinking in and I am coming to accept the fact that we are beginning our last mile together. My baby, my best friend is getting ready to go to the rainbow bridge to be young and healthy again.

So, though I continue to read in hopes to find that miracle cure, I focus my time on loving her, spoiling her, and making her last mile as fun-filled and enjoyable as it possibly can be. I come to this board regularly and do thank you all for your words as they have brought me comfort, touched me, and thrown that splash of cold water reality to my face as needed even though you may not have realized I was here, reading in silence.

frijole
01-06-2013, 03:00 PM
Sue,

Your thread tears at my heartstrings as I am a mama to a pheo dog. My Annie was the love of my life also. I understand your decision and just wanted you to know that my little fighter lived with hers for at least 2 years. If I can help in any way - I am here.

Sending love to your adorable Abbi.

Kim

mytil
01-06-2013, 03:33 PM
Sue and Abbi,

Welcome to our site. I do not have any direct experience with pheos as Kim has but I am sure others will chime in shortly.

It may have been the pressure of the growing mass that caused her to flinch out of tenderness and maybe not pain.

Please keep us posted
Terry

molly muffin
01-06-2013, 03:57 PM
Hi Sue and Abbi,
First post and I'm dashing for the Kleenex box. Not sure when I'll learn to just keep one handy on my desk.

Abbi is so beautiful and the pictures of her are just wonderful. What a lovely, playful nature she seems to have. I am sure that she is loved dearly. It shows in every picture too.

So, that is what Abbi knows. She knows that she is loved and that she loves in return. I am sure that her life has been wonderful and the bond you share is very special. Some things you just know, from your words, from her pictures.

I don't have any experience with pheo tumors either. Kim does. Flynn, our Trish's baby just went through surgery to remove one.

I lurked from the first time I had to test for cushings, that was hmmm..2 years ago. Then thought it was nothing and checked in a few times to see how people were doing. Cried a bit. Then bham, back again after another cushings testing. Many of us have been down that road and then come out into the full blown K9C sunshine. :)

gosh, you know, we all wish and wish and wish that a cure would be found for both Pituitary and Adrenal cushings. Maybe one day it will even be so. It's so hard to know what to do and how to go forward in these cases. No one though knows your baby better than you do. I hope that you have plenty of time left with Abbi. Nothing can make it all better for you and her, but at least we are all here and walk the same paths, with little side jogs now and then. You and Abbi couldn't be in better company. Everyone is so supportive and loving here. It's hard and we know it.

So, I'll extend a great big warm welcome to the forum and the sunshine and pass over the box of Kleenex.
We share our toys too. :D

Sharlene and Molly Muffin

jmac
01-06-2013, 04:42 PM
Hi Sue,

I would also like to welcome you and Abbi, and I am so glad you decided to post and share your story with us. You are right that this is a wonderful place, with amazing, caring people who are all traveling the same journey, although we don't all take the same path.

Your post also had me in tears. It is obvious you and Abbi share a special bond and love each other very much.

I am sure you have already found comfort here, and now we will be here to listen or offer advice whenever you want to talk about Abbi.

Julie & Hannah

milosmom
01-06-2013, 05:38 PM
thank you sharlene for that box of kleenex and ps i have emptied it...and a very warm and huggy welcome to you sue and abbi.as you can see there are many of us here who are truly grateful to have found this forum.so much love,support,hugs,kisses,caring people i have met(ok we type our lives here but nonetheless we feel like a family here)we are all here for you sue to be with you and abbi ok...don't feel you are alone in this journey,sending you love,light,peace and xoxox patty(milo)meka

molly muffin
01-06-2013, 07:19 PM
Never fear patti. I'll start picking up kleenex in bulk form from Costco! Can't have us running out at important moments in time. :)

Sharlene and Molly Muffin

Buffaloe
01-06-2013, 09:23 PM
Is there a reason that a bilateral adrenalectomy is not an option? Generally, a bilateral adrenalectomy provides a complete cure. I remember once, my surgeon told me he doesn't care how many he has to remove, only the size and vascular involvement. There might be a good reason both adrenals / tumors can't be surgically removed in Abbi's case.

I hope you have a nice amount of quality time left with Abbi.

Ken

Boriss McCall
01-06-2013, 09:28 PM
Sue,
Welcome to the group. I am so sorry to read about Abbi. She sounds like an incredible dog. We are here for you. I don't have any experience with pheos. but, I will be here to give you encouragement or an ear to listen & shoulder to cry on.

hugs..

Bo's Mom
01-06-2013, 09:59 PM
I just want to pop in and welcome you and Abbi. I am so terribly sorry for what you hare having to endure but know that we are all here for you.

Trish
01-07-2013, 02:50 AM
Hi Sue and Abbi

Gosh that is so sad. I did want to mention about my dog Flynn that had surgery last month for a pheo. His ultrasound reported bilateral adrenal tumours also, the left sided one was much smaller than the right which was the bigger and also invading into vena cava. When they did a CT the smaller left one was not obvious. Then when they did surgery they had a very close look at the left adrenal gland and there was no sign of tumour at all it was just a little enlarged. Vets said that ultrasound can sometimes be a little unclear.

But as Ken said, bilateral adrenalectomy is an option if there is no spread anywhere and can be a total cure (albeit she would have to take lifelong meds), is it her age maybe? She looks so fit and well and happy in her pics! Ro and her dog Chey are treating an adrenal tumour (possible pheo) with medication, so you could look out for her thread too. Chey is doing great with BP meds and a cushings drug.

Wondering what Abbi's BP is? If surgery is not an option then symptom control is the way to go, pheos often have high BP and control of that may help her feel better and not cause some of the problems associated with high blood pressure. I remember my vet said most dogs in the past with pheo died of other causes related to their blood pressure, like stroke, heart attack. But now we can control their BP they can live a longer life. The trouble is they cannot biopsy because of where the stupid adrenals sit, so only way they can confirm the type of tumour is when they get it out.

I hope some options come up for you guys, it is so exhausting researching. I put a whole lot of links on a recent post on adrenal tumour, if you did not see that I can post them again.

Thinking of you
Trish and Flynn xx