My Pug Scoop (Precious Scoop has passed... )

[scoora]

Thanks Valerie.
I tried my hardest to help Scoop. It hurts just thinking about the what-ifs. It's just so sad it had to end like it did. I miss him so much. My heart still aches.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
I could fill up a book about my could have's , should haves, if only, maybes, probablys etc. on the things I have second guessed with Tipper's life. My main if only is that I would not have given her prednisone for allergies, and we would not be where we are. I know this keeps playing over and over in your head. At times it is impossible to shut it off, I know from experience. I am instead trying to think of all the things done, accomplished, tried, prayed for, researched, and any little victories we have had. I try to get the others out of my head. If I keep feeling I caused this on My Tipper I will just crumble. I need to go on for her sake. This morning I am having Lupus symptoms and just would like to lay down and rest. Well that is not happening, as Tipper is up and wants to walk, and that she shall. Please try, cause I know it is not easy, to fill your heart with all these things you did to help your baby. I know you would have gone to Mars to help him. After all look, you took him for radiation, because you thought that you would leave no stone unturned. I would have followed your path also. You were going to the nth degree for this baby, as I would. You left it all out there Vicki on this one shot to help him. Please don't blame yourself, even though that is easy for me to say and I do it myself. It is easy for anyone to realize the depth of love you have for Scoop, and how you went to the ends of the earth to help him. He knows you did Vicki, he knows you did not let him down. He knows you pushed and shoved to get him whatever he needed. He knows you never wanted to be without him. He would not want to see you so unhappy. He knew you were the best mom in the world and you stuck by him thru it all. I get a knot in my stomach when I think of how things turned out for you both, as I have told you many times, Tipper and I will walk in your shoes, it is inevitable. I am tied so deeply to her that I don't know if I could survive her leaving me. You will in your own way come to terms with this in time. Do what you must to get thru it, and hang onto your other baby as he needs you now and probably is sensing your sadness. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Patti, Thank you. You are a sweetheart.

[Budsters Mom]

Vicki,
I have my share of what if's that play on a continuous reel in my mind. I think it's all part of the grieving process. What matters most is that our boys know without a doubt that they are loved. Loved every second or every day, forever.:p Yes, I still feel really sad and cry clutching Buddy's blanket and stuffed frog. Waves of sadness wash over me like the tide rushing in. There are other times when I'm able to function pretty well. I think it all takes time to feel what we need to before we can continue on and find a new normal. Sending you loving thoughts and prayers. You will make it Vicki. We both will.
Big hugs,

[Simba's Mom]

Hey Vicki, sending hugs and prayers, my what ifs get to me too, but I have to keep telling myself that I did the best I could for my Simba, just as you did for your precious Scoop...somewhere I heard that the ones who come onto your life for a little while makes the most impact, I truly believe that...Simba taught me so much and I miss him every day, just as your precious Scoop taught you things...hang on to seeing him again someday, and those precious visits that only they can do, and take one day at a time, here for you!!!

[scoora]

Kathy and Letti, I can't thank you enough for watching out for me. It helps to know how you feel since we lost our boys so close together. There are times (lots of times) when I have this horrible knot in my stomach and my chest feels like it wants to explode. It just overwhelms me and I start crying. It's still just so hard to believe this has happened and Scoop isn't here. Love and miss my sweet boy Scoop so much.
Thank you again my friends.
Hugs to all.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I was in a hurry and unknowingly put a message on Letti's thread for you. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Thanks Patti, I saw it.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Dr. Bruyette just answered me and said he is doing studies on pathogenesis of Cushings in dogs and in humans. He said they can always use funds for research. There was a link with a tour of their new hospital, it is fabulous. The people there are lucky to have a facility like this. I bet it is very expensive though. So what do we do from here? Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Patti, So Dr. Bruyette's hospital is actually doing a study on the cause of Cushing's? I know they are doing the study on shrinking the tumor. So they are studying the cause also? Did he tell you anything about how to donate? I wish I was a millionaire. I don't know what to say. Maybe others might have some suggestions. It would be nice if we could send him a big, fat check from all of our babies.

[scoora]

Has anyone heard from Mel?

[Budsters Mom]

No. I even sent her a PM a few days ago, but haven't heard back.:o

[scoora]

I sent a PM a couple days ago too but haven't heard from her.
Hope she's OK.

[addy]

Maybe she is bogged down at work after her vacation.
I'm sure she will be back soon:):)

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
You know that has crossed my mind so many times the last couple days and I have been so busy I keep forgetting to ask everyone. She may be real busy coming back from vacation and all. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

In less than an hour it will be 5 weeks since my sweet Scoop left us.
I keep reliving that night over and over in my mind.
It is still so hard to believe it has happened.
I miss my Scoop so very much.
Every Monday night I sit here with him in my lap.
I love and miss Scoop so much.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I am with you on the feeling, and wish I could find the magic wand to make things better for you. I worry more as each day goes by about my Tipper. I wish with all my heart I could stop and freeze time. I probably will not be able to handle losing my girl and I am petrified and crying at times. God Bless You Vicki, my heart goes out to you. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Patti-Thank you. Your Tipper is strong and so are you. You keep fighting the way you do for her. She is so lucky to have you for her mom.

[labblab]

Dear Vicki,

My heart goes out to you, especially this week because this is my rough week of remembering, too. I know that I cannot lift your pain, but I do want you to know that you're not alone. Unlike you, I had my Barkis right at home with me that last night. But I also suffer when I remember. We had chosen to keep him at home so that we'd be with him in those final hours -- so that I wouldn't have any regrets about that part. But Vicki, the crazy thing is, that is my biggest regret. Because when it came down to that last night, I couldn't bear to admit to myself that he would be taking his final ride first thing in the morning. So to trick myself into making it through that night, I didn't do anything different. He was on his dogbed, and I was up in mine. I didn't hold him all through the night, or kiss his head, or fondle his ears. I didn't tell him what a good boy he was. I pretended that there'd be plenty more days for that. And as soon as we got up in the morning, I gave him a quick hug and we loaded him in the car for the ride over to the vet, just as we'd done so many times during that last year. And that's how I managed to take that ride and walk in that door with him. That's the only way I could live through that day. But that first night, when he was gone, I couldn't believe I had sacrificed those final hours with him. I simply couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe I had been so weak as to lose my chance for a sweet good-by at home. It still hurts, and it is my biggest regret of all. If only I could do it over.

Once we know how the story ends, it is so easy to go back and imagine how things would have turned out had we done them differently. But when we're in the midst of the pages unfolding, we do what we can and what we think is best. Right at that moment. That's all we are able to do. And the truth is, we really can never know whether they would have turned out "better," anyway, had they been different. Maybe I would have scared Barkis by acting out of the ordinary, myself. As it was, I don't think he had a fear in the world because he did not know what I knew or that anything was wrong. Maybe it was easier for Scoop to depart for the Bridge without sensing how scared and upset you would have been had you been near him that night. That sweet nurse was rubbing his ear, and he did not know that you were upset at all. Vicki, maybe it was better for Scoop that way.

For you and me, it doesn't feel better now. But we have to trust that both Barkis and Scoop always knew that they were loved. Always. And a lifetime of love far outweighs a few hours during a dark night. I do believe they both left this world peacefully knowing they were loved, and always will be.

Sending huge hugs your way,
Marianne

[LabDad]

I think our dogs know sometimes. Lulu would go outside and sit in the cold, even the snow, and I would bring her back in. She seemed to know. I hear say that like Native Americans that sometimes a dog will want to be alone these moments. I think Lulu knew that was upsetting to me, so she waited for me to come back from a job interview I had gone to on a blizzard day. I think we could have revived her too, but to what avail. She had for sure an enlarged heart with 'old dog lungs' . It is hard, and I know for us in two days, August 8, it will be six months. I do hope I am home to have a candle lit for her.

Our Stanley has become a real joy, he is learning every day. We do have to keep a rein on him with strangers though, there are some people he does not seem to like. It's hard to fake a dog, they read people better than we do, I guess that's why they make good workers for the government, not only in their sense of smell, but in their judge of character.

Give your Raleigh a kiss for me, he seems adorable, and I do worry about our pets when they lose a companion of their own.

[scoora]

Marianne and Bob,
Thank you for sharing your stories and heartbreak with me.
I'm sorry you both have a rough week of remembering this week. No matter how it happens it hurts like all "heck". It seems like no matter how much time passes, it is still very difficult.
I often said that I wouldn't be able to make "the decision" so I guess Scoop made it for me. No matter who makes the decision it is never easy on us moms and dads who love them so much and are so heart broken. All I know is my heart still aches so much and I think about the what-ifs. I think about things and it just bothers me like that the IMS told me, after he was gone, that she didn't think he was that sick. I keep thinking, why didn't she warn me. She had an explanation after it was all said and done but why didn't she think or know this would happen. I just get confused when I think about things. Just hard for me to wrap my head around some things. So far it hasn't gotten any easier. I love and miss my Scoop so much. As I'm sure you do Barkis and Lulu.

Bob, yes, Raleigh is adorable and we love him. He is so different than Scoop was. I know he loved Scoop very much. He would almost always want to be where Scoop was before Scoop got sick and sometimes after. He hasn't showed it but I'm sure he misses Scoop.

[addy]

Dear Vicki,

I am so sorry and I hope one day those last days, hours and minutes are replaced with loving memories of a time long before, a time that will be remembered with a smile and a soft, gentle heart. Things happen for a reason, no matter how haunting that reason may be.

Soft gentle hugs to you, Vicki, I cry with you, we all do.

[scoora]

Addy, Thank you so much. Everything is still so fresh in my mind. Scoop was such a big part of our lives. Everything reminds me of Scoop which I want to remember Scoop and never forget him but his passing still hurts so much. I miss him terribly. I just seem to be one of those who will struggle with this for quite some time. I'm sorry I'm so depressed all the time. Thank you for caring. I appreciate all your kind words, love and hugs. You all are the best.

[Simba's Mom]

Aw Vicki, I'm here with you, Sim is always on my mind too, it will take sometime to stop the tears, I cry a little everyday, sometimes a lot...its ok to tell us how you are feeling, don't feel bad for being down, its expected...I stay very busy with my new pup but he is not my Sim, no one will ever take his place in my heart...but I am doing my best to keep him alive thru my memories, trying my best to smile and tell the world that I'm ok, when deep down I'm not..sending hugs and prayers hon, take care of you!

[addy]

Grieving has no time limit, it lasts for as long as it needs to last. Dont feel bad about it. We are all here, we are not going anywhere, so we will talk and listen, hug, laugh and cry with you for however long you need us to and then some:)

[scoora]

Oh Letti and Addy, I can't thank you enough for your kind, loving words.
I spent most of this past year with my Scoop. I worked only part time for a while then the last few months I didn't work at all. I was with Scoop almost 24/7except at times when my husband or daughter would be home and I would run errands or go to lunch with my husband or when Scoop was in the hospital. Scoop was my life. I would take Scoop with me, if I could. We would mail letters in the mailbox at the Post Office because it was a drive and drop from the car. I would go through the drive-thru at the Credit Union with Scoop in the car. We would go to 2 different pet stores to get food and treats. We went through the drive-thru at Wendy's and MacDonald's. I took him to this park that I have to drive past often. My car has a lot of Scoop hair on the floor and my husband said the car needs a sweeping. I said not yet. He was such a BIG part of my life and now I can't bring myself to go to the pet stores, I have to go to the Credit Union but I don't use the drive-thru and it's hard to just go there. I now let my mailman take my letters I used to mail with Scoop. I think I want to change vets for Raleigh because I have a hard time just driving past the vet's office. I have a hard time eating certain foods because I know Scoop used to love them.
I miss my Scoop so much.
I went to one of the local animal shelters the other day and filled out a paper to volunteer if they could use someone who has no special skill or talent.
I visited that shelter and another one the other week and took some food that Raleigh isn't going to eat and left a small donation. My heart went out to all the dogs there.
At the shelter close to my home I asked if they had any Pugs. She said not right now but they do get some at times. I wasn't sure why I asked because I wasn't sure how I felt about another one so soon after Scoop. Two days later, Friday night I saw I got an email from the person I talked to, saying that a Pug came in 20 minutes after I left there on Wed. I thought maybe it was meant to be. Maybe Scoop sent him to me. So over the weekend I talked to my husband and he said he was OK with it. Sunday I responded to the email and said I would like to meet him. The next morning I thought maybe I better call. Talked to the person in charge of dog adoptions. The Pug was having surgery that day and he would call the next day and see about me meeting the Pug, Tupper. I didn't hear from him. So Wed I found out he was either adopted or foster to adopt. That was really fast.So I guess it wasn't meant to be. He is about 8 years old. He got neutered and a growth removed. I think they had to pull some teeth and his eye sight is not good. I was told he was walking into things and he has very bad dry eye. The vet put him on several eye drops to see if it would help. If I understood the man I talked to (his cell phone was breaking up) he said the person who's home Tupper went to is a vet tech and she could evaluate his eye sight as he is getting the eye drops. I'm sure he went to a good home and he will have a Pug sister, they said on Facebook. I saw his picture and he didn't look like my Scoop. Tupper has some darker fur but I just looked at him and I could see Scoop. They said that Tupper is such a sweet, gentle soul and loves to give kisses. Sounds like my Scoop. Guess it wasn't meant to be like I thought it was.

Love you my Scoop with all my heart!

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I totally agree with Addy, grieving has no limit, so just come on here and we will all be here for you always. You can say things on here that people in the " real world" would not understand. I am so happy we all have this forum to come to, it has been my saving grace from going bonkers sometimes. I am glad you are reaching out to other babies that may need your help, Scoop would be proud of you and happy you are doing it. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Just wanted to say, thanks, Patti.

[molly muffin]

Hi Vicki,

I'm sorry the days are still so bad. Some day they won't be as bad. It is just such a hole in your life and heart to go from doing so much for Scoop to having empty days.
Volunteering is a great idea. :) Maybe this one, was the getting you ready to accept the possibility, rather than the one who would end up a part of your family. :)

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[scoora]

Sharlene, That is a nice way to think about it, as getting ready.
I haven't heard from the volunteer lady yet so we'll see what she has to say. I did hear they have quite a few volunteers there.

I can't believe how bad I feel today. Even worse than other days. I am still having all these questions and nagging feelings about why this happened the way it did and was everything done that could have been done to prevent Scoop from getting so sick. Did the doctors do everything they could to help Scoop? I just keep having this nagging feeling that something could have been done and it is driving me crazy. I wish I could think of Scoop with a smile and remember the good times and not how things ended. I feel so tied up in knots all the time. I can't relax. Scoop is always on my mind. I do miss him so very much. It has left me with a big hole in my heart and my life.

[scoora]

Tonight it is 6 weeks since I lost my Scoop. I love and miss him so very much. It has been a very tough 6 weeks.


Sitting here holding you.
I love and miss you more than I can say.
Always thinking of you.
You are always in my heart.
Love you forever Scoop!
Mom

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Vicki,
It's been a tough six weeks for me too.:o We'll get through this together. Many, many big hugs my dear,

[scoora]

Kathy,
6 weeks for you tomorrow(today). Thanks for being here for me.
Big hugs right back at you.

[doxiesrock912]

Hugs to both of you.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
It does just seem like yesterday to everyone else, but I know it is an eternity to you. Wish I lived closer so you and I could talk, and I could help you some how. I am just so sad for you that you have to have so much pain. God Bless you and Scoop
Patti

[scoora]

Patti,
Thank you. Oh how I would love that if we would be closer and could meet up and talk. I think that a lot, that it would help to have closer contact. Everyone is just spread out so far from one another. There are times, like right now, that I could use a big, in person, hug.

Valerie, Thank you for the hugs.

[Woodydog]

Cant give you a hug in person but sending a virtual hug for you.

Im so so sorry your feeling so sad :(

[Budsters Mom]

Vicki, thank you so much for your hugs on Buddy's thread. You are absolutely right, virtual hugs just don't cut it, but they are the best we have. :p:) The support, feelings and love sent is real though. I would certainly give you several great big hugs in person if I could. I know you ache for your sweet Scoop as much as I do for Buddy. Xxxxx

[Simba's Mom]

Sending hugs Vicki, understanding how you are feeling..

[scoora]

Thank you everyone.
Not feeling too good right now. Later

[LabDad]

Vicki,

I know how you feel. Our new Stanley helps, but both Moo & myself still morn for Lulu. Maybe that's good. She was our life for 12 years. Stanley has been our life for almost two months, and he is just wonderful.

He's not Lulu, but he helps. Take care, and know you are not alone.

[Simba's Mom]

hope your ok, here for you!

[Budsters Mom]

((((((((((hugs))))))))))

[goldengirl88]

Letti:
Hope you are doing well, and starting to heal your heart. I know Sim is looking down and keeping a watch on his wonderful Mommy. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Thanks everybody.
It's still tough. I saw the same counselor on Monday that I saw 5 weeks ago. It helps for a bit but then right back to where I was. She did say that it is normal how I feel for the amount of time. She also said if I still feel this way after a year then there is a problem. Don't know if I could take feeling like this for a year.

Had some tummy issues the last few days so that has made me feel even more like crap.

[scoora]

I have a question. I read about Magnesium Stearate and it is bad for dogs. I can't remember if I read about it on someone's thread or where. I know it is used when making capsules. Does anyone know if it is still bad if you open the capsule and dump the contents onto the food? Is it on the outside of the capsule?
Thanks if anyone has an answer.

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Vicki,
I actually know something about magnesium stearate. Capsules are put together with machinery in the factory. magnesium stearate is commonly used to as a lubricating agent to help move the chemicals through the machine into the capsules. I discovered it when I tried to buy SEB in capsules, so I looked it up. It is not good for dogs or people for that matter. I ended up buying the SEB powdered online without the additive. Opening the capsules will not remove the substance. Please read the link below. It will tell you everything you need to know. Big hugs.


http://ottawavalleydogwhisperer.blogspot.com/2013/03/dont-give-your-dog-supplements-that.html

[scoora]

Thanks Kathy,
So if I open the capsule and use the substance inside and throw away the capsule part the magnesium stearate is still a danger?

[Budsters Mom]

Yes, it is still a danger. :(The magnesium stearate is a compound that that is mixed in as an added ingredient. It has nothing to do with the capsules, except it is added to the medication/vitamins/etc. to make the capsules work better in the machines. It is used as a lubricant.

[doxiesrock912]

With the medications etc, added dangers are the last things that our furlets need.
I can't believe that its use is allowed.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Thanks for thinking of Tipper. I don't know about what the counselor said. If you feel like this a year form now there is a problem. I know how I would feel and it would definitely go beyond a year. I am glad you are going, and wish some how I could help you. I think of you and Scoop and pray for both of you every nite. God willing how you are feeling will ease up. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Thank you Patti

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I feel so bad as I know it is hard to stop playing that tape over and over again in your head about Scoop's circumstances. After this experience with Tipper I have learned a lot about Vets and their lack of knowledge, quest for money, and lack of empathy. I will never in my life for as long as I walk this earth ever put my faith solely in a vet. I have learned the hard way thru all the trials and tribulations with Tipper that you can only rely on yourself, bottom line. I am lucky I learned this lesson early enough in her disease. I make all the decisions for her care, and what will and won't be done with her. It is the only thing that has saved her from mistakes so far. It's scary to trust yourself with the thing you value the most in your life, but I have learned that is the only way I can be sure she is safe. An emergency may be a different ball game altogether . For everyday vet care I rely on my judgment and the help from this forum. With your situation, and Scoop being in the hospital, you did the very best you could, know that. We are not Dr.s although some on this forum have more knowledge than some of these Drs. do. In the situation you were in it was hard enough to function yet alone think of all the right things to ask. Most people will never run into this disease in their lifetime. We are the unfortunate ones who did, so we don't always know what is going on. It is unfortunately by trial and error sometimes as you go thru this disease process. I learn new things every day. This all happened very soon after Scoop started on this journey, so you were unable to have all this knowledge then. I don't think anyone on this forum was versed in Cushings before it happened to their dog, some probably never even heard of it. Don't fault yourself for not knowing what to ask. It is just a learning process unless you have had prior experience with it. Your Scoop had the best mom ever, and we all know it. Blessings Patti

[Simba's Mom]

Sending hugs and prayers, still missing my Simba too, here for u!

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Vicki,
Sending more love and TLC your way.:)

[scoora]

Letti, Kathy,
You two are sweethearts. I can always use some hugs, prayers, TLC, love. Anything you can send my way. I'll take it. I was a real mess a bit earlier then my daughter and I had a nice long talk. It felt good. I am back to feeling all heart broken and restless but not quite as bad as I was.

Hope both of you are doing good. HUGS

[Budsters Mom]

Vicki,
We are all having a hard time. :oThankfully none of us are alone. We all have each other.:p Let's keep talking it all out together until it gets easier for all of us. I'm glad that you were able to have a nice long talk with your daughter. Xxxxx

[Simba's Mom]

It's so nice to have people who know how you are feeling!!!!!

[scoora]

7 weeks tonight since I last saw my sweet boy Scoop.
Love and miss him so very much.

[Simba's Mom]

Crying for you and for me, this sucks so much

[scoora]

Letti, It sure does.

[doxiesrock912]

Many, many HUGS sweetie.

[goldengirl88]

Vicky:
Thinking of you and precious Scoop. Hoping to get some resolution to Tipper's situation on Wednesday. God Bless you and Scoop
Patti

[scoora]

Thanks Valerie and Patti

Patti, hope all goes well tomorrow.

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Vicki,
Send me more love and tons of hugs. Xxxxxx

[molly muffin]

Hi Vicki, just wanted to pop in and say hello and that we're thinking of you and your family and of course Scoop.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Please pray for my Tipper, this is not good. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Prayers for Tipper
Hugs for you

[scoora]

8 weeks since my Scoop left us.
So hard to believe.
Miss him so much.
Love him lots

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Vicki,
Thinking of you and your family. It will get easier. I keep telling myself that. We never really get over losing them, we just learn to live without them. Be gentle with yourself. Big hugs,

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Thinking of you and Scoop, saw the candle you lit for him. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Kathy, Thank you. Thinking of you and Buddy.

Patti, With everything you have on your mind, thank you for thinking of us.

[Simba's Mom]

Sending hugs this journey is not easy, but so glad we have this family!!! Take care!!

[scoora]

Thanks Letti,
Still miss my Scoop.
Life is not easy.

[scoora]

Has anyone heard from Mel lately?

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Thinking of you and Scoop. I heard from Mel about a week and a half ago. I think she must be really busy with work, I am sure she is reading the posts, but unable to respond because she is so busy. I miss her too and hope we hear form her soon. Blessings
Patti

[NoonelovesmelikeNorman]

Dear Vicki, I am so sorry to hear of Scoop passing. I havn't been on much lately. My heart feels for you and the loss of Scoop. We love our pupps, they family, we do what we can, what we are able with the resources and information we have. I hope as time passes you will find comfort in knowing Scoop is no longer suffering. (((hugs))) and love.

Sharon, Norman and Millie

[molly muffin]

When we were at the IMS the other day, I was looking at the staff pictures on the walls. They have pictures of staff with all their pets. Our IMS's picture had her holding her two pugs. They looked just like Scoop with the same coloring, so adorable. I said it out loud, Scoops!!
Then we saw a minature schnauzer and I said it's a Trixie dog. LOL
Scoop lives on in more ways than one, that's for sure. He will always be remembered. I hope it was okay to share that with you.

hugs,
Sharlene and molly muffin

[scoora]

Patti, Thank you

Sharon, Thank you for the condolences.

Sharlene, Yes that was more than OK to share that. That was sweet. Thank you for remembering my Scoop.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Thank you for your continued support of Tipper. This is a scary journey, and I have held it together for her sake, and we continue on. I think the rest in going to be up to God now. Thinking of you and sweet Scoop. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Patti, You and Tipper are always in my thoughts and prayers. I'm sorry this is such a scary journey for the two of you. I know how you feel. I hope things get better.
HUGS

[Simba's Mom]

Sending hugs and prayers, some days are better then others, even with a new pup, Simba is missed.....

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Thinking of you and Scoop this morning. It seems like eternity I know, and I hope things get better. I am waiting on cooler weather as Tipper is bored in the house and needs to be out in the cool air. I am hoping she is well enough to enjoy fall with me. I am scared for her, and it is becoming hard for me to sleep. Blessings
Patti

[Budsters Mom]

Vicki,
Sending more love and hugs your way. You, Letti and I will get through this together. Our pups are best buds hanging out together. We need to stick together too! Xxxx

[scoora]

Kathy, Letti,
Love and hugs to you and to our best bud pups.
They are loved and missed so much.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Wondering how you are doing? Hope you had a good weekend and that your heart is beginning to heal. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

I know this isn't Cushing's related but does anyone have any experience with upper respiratory infection or kennel cough especially in young puppies?
I've made a horrible mess of things. I feel so bad and I'm so scared. I can't believe this is happening. I must be the most stupid person on this earth. I'll give details another time. It's a bit of a long story. I have 2 Pug puppies. The one is 13 weeks and the other is 9 weeks. The older one was diagnosed with kennel cough and the younger one just started with URI has not been coughing yet. The younger one has such tiny nostrils he has trouble breathing so as it is and now he's sneezing and has a runny nose. They are both on Doxycycline. Anyone have any experience with this? It's my fault the younger one got sick. I can't believe this is happening. I'm just sick about this. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Years ago a puppy next door squeezed thru my fence and gave my Wheaton Terrier kennel cough. It was so bad I had her at the emergency, I never thought she would get thru it. It lasted a long time and she coughed and kept me awake all nite. I would see first of all if that is the best antibiotic for the job on the bacterial part, but this is caused by a virus and the antibiotic will not help that. Can you suction their noses out to help them breathe? I would get some honey or a cough medicine approved thru the vet. This kennel cough irritates the dogs trachea and sometimes they cannot stop coughing making honking noises etc. Where ever you got them from should pay the vet bill. I can imagine this is really hard on small pups as my dog was about 5 and she had a terrible time. Also you do not want Raleigh to get this as it is airborne. Blessings
Patti
Patti

[labblab]

Oh Vicki, I'm so sorry to hear about the kennel cough. I found this link about kennel cough in puppies that may be helpful to you:

http://puppies.about.com/od/Puppy_Health/a/Kennel-Cough.htm

All of my dogs have developed kennel cough at one time or another, so I know how worrisome the "honking" can be. But after being given antiobiotics and cough suppressants, they have all cleared up fairly rapidly. But none have been as young as your babies, so I understand why you are especially worried.

Since you have the doxycycline, I'm assuming your vet is very aware of the situation and is guiding you, which is so important. I'm hoping the puppies will be just fine again before very long. And of course, then we will be anxious to hear all about them and how they've joined your family. :)

Marianne

[addy]

Oh Vicki,

Koko had terrible kennel cough when we brought him home but he was nine months old, two rounds of anitbiotics to get it cleared up and he green crude plastered all over his face when we first picked him up. He was a mess but he got better.

I just know the puppies will be fine sweetie. So sorry they both got sick.

[spdd]

I don't know anything about kennel cough, but hoping you can get it cleared soon.

It's worrisome especially with young pups, but I have no doubt you will get it cured.

[Simba's Mom]

Take care of you too, those pups should be better soon hon, don't be so hard on urself......hugs and prayers!!!

[Budsters Mom]

Vicki,
Buddy arrived with kennel cough as a puppy. Antibiotics and completing his puppy shot series helped him recover with no lingering issues. You are taking care of things with the puppies and that's all that matters. Please give yourself a break. This happens with new puppies at times. We deal with it. That's what you are doing now. I hope they bounce back from this really soon. Xxxxx

[doxiesrock912]

Vicki,

Daisy came down with it too shortly after we first brought her home.
It took 2 rounds of antibiotics to clear, but it did clear.

Kennel Cough is contagious so watch other pets for symptoms.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I am sure you are busy with the new babies, but I am just checking in to see how they are doing. Did you get cough meds? Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Hi everybody. Thanks for the well wishes for Archie and Gus.
Right now Archie, who is 13 weeks and weighed a little over 7 pounds last Friday at the vet, has the cough. He started on Doxycycline last Friday. No cough meds. He doesn't cough a whole lot. Gus who is 9 weeks and weighed a little over 4 pounds this week at the vet, has a stuffy, runny nose. He sneezes and his breathing sounds terrible. As of right now he does not have a cough(knock on wood) His nostrils are so small. He has seen 2 different vets in the same practice and they both mentioned how tiny they are. I hope he can fight this off. The vet said I should run a cool mist humidifier for Gus. I had a vaporizer going for a few days. Then today I was told it should be cool mist. I bought one and ran it tonight and the air in the room smells terrible.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I am so glad for you that you got these babies. They will occupy some space in your heart and lessen your grief hopefully. What does Raleigh think of them? What color are they? I love their names, how cute. Were they both from the same litter? You will be one busy gal housebreaking!! I am glad you have some joy in your life, you need some happiness now. God Bless you, Raleigh, the new babies, and precious Scoop.
Patti

[scoora]

Patti, Thank you. I will answer your questions but it is late right now. It will take me a bit of time to answer. I'll try to do it tomorrow night. Don't have much time during the day right now. They keep me busy. Even though they keep me busy I still miss Scoop but I have enough love in my heart for everyone of them. They are all so precious. So far Raleigh hasn't gotten sick(knock on wood). I just hope Archie and Gus can get over this sickness. Little Gus sneezes and it sounds like he has so much trouble breathing, it's scares me.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
No rush, I know you have to be really busy with 2 sick babies. I am glad Raliegh is not sick too. I think this is a good thing to have the babies to care for. It keeps you mind off of things for a while. These babies have a great mommy to look after them. Blessings
Patti

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Vicki,
Sending lots of love and healing energy your way. :p If anyone can pull Archie and Gus through this, you can. Yes, you have plenty of love in your heart for them all. I know that sweet Scoop is proud of you for trying so hard to help these new babies. Xxxxx

[scoora]

Patti and Kathy, You are so sweet. Thank you.
It is late again. I sit on the chair with my laptop and I doze off.
Another night.
Hugs

[spdd]

How are the pups doing today?

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I am glad the pups are keeping your mind off other things. I hope they are both coming around, and making progress. Just take care of yourself and remember I am always praying for you and sweet Scoop, and have added Archie and Gus. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Patti, Sorry it took a while. I'll see if I can answer your questions before I get too sleepy. Archie and Gus are quite a handful. Archie got cleared from the vet. Luckily his kennel cough never got too bad. Gus was cleared from his upper respiratory infection. He still sneezes and has a hard time breathing. The vet thinks it's because his nostrils are so small. There's like no opening there. He will probably have to have surgery when he gets neutered. They have only been together for a couple of days. We had been trying to keep them separated the best we could till they saw the vet. So now they go at it. Archie is 4 weeks older than Gus so he is bigger but Gus is not afraid to start things. Hopefully they'll learn to get along real soon. Hopefully they both will stay healthy. Raleigh didn't get sick. Thank goodness.

Archie was always biting at Raleigh when he first came. He has gotten better and now he has Gus to bite and Gus bites him. Raleigh never bit back. A lot of times Gus will start it with Archie. For how small he is, he is not afraid. Today Molly brought home some new toys from PetSmart. Raleigh actually played with the toys too. He hasn't done that in a while.

They are both fawn color. Archie is a very light fawn and Gus is darker. Archie is getting a bit darker but nowhere near Gus's color. My daughter called Archie a marshmallow when we first brought him home. They came from 2 different places. That's a long story for another time. Archie was born June 6 and Gus was born July 4. June 6 was the day Scoop had his Cyberknife treatment.

I love all my boys very much. Having the pups helps but there are still times I cry and think of Scoop and miss him very much. He will always be in my heart. I just hope and pray that Raleigh, Archie and Gus will always be nice and healthy. I love all 4 of them very much!

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
They sound so cute, and I bet they are a handful. I am glad that this is taking up your time, as I know how the mind wanders when idle. I am sure Scoop is looking down with his approval that some other babies will get to share the great mommy he has. I found what is called Urn Jewelry and saw a nice necklace that would hold some of your babies ashes in. I am going to get one soon as I want to be able to send it to the funeral home when the time comes and have it filled. Tipper is not well, she has been really bad for about a week now. I am praying the 5mg trilostane comes soon as her dosage is off and she is really feeling bad. I am so scared for her all I can do at times is cry. I never leave her, I need to spend as much time with her as possible. I pray all your babies never have any health issues, you have suffered enough. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Patti,
Thank you for all your kind words.
I hope the new dose of trilostane is just what Tipper needs to get her feeling better and getting back to being her old self. I know exactly how you are feeling. Tipper and you are in my prayers.

[molly muffin]

Hi Vicki,
I can't wait to see a picture of the little guys. They sound like a real pair, funny as all get out when they get going. :)

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[scoora]

Tonight it is 11 weeks since Scoop passed. I still miss him so much. He is always in my heart.

Love you forever Scoop.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I am thinking of you and Scoop today. I will pray for you both today. I hope the babies are better. I bet two little ones keeps you on your toes! Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Gus has trouble breathing and he has a runny nose. Most of the time when he goes outside he has bubbles coming out of his nose. He will probably be like that until he can get a nose job when he is neutered. At least that's what the vet thinks.

Scoop used to love laying in the sun that would come in our dining room window in the morning. Raleigh would lay next to him and put his head on Scoop. This morning Raleigh was laying in the sun and Archie went over and laid next to him and put his head on Raleigh. Brought tears to my eyes.

[Simba's Mom]

Aw Vicki, what a cool story, hugs and prayers!

[molly muffin]

That is so sweet Vicki!

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[spdd]

What a cute story !!

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
That story brought tears to my eyes thinking of Scoop. That must have warmed your heart. I am glad to hear the little ones are getting better. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

12 weeks since Scoop left us. Still hard to believe. Still miss him so much.
Always in my heart. Always love my Scoop.

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Vicki,
It's still very hard for me too, but we'll get through it together.:p Our boys are together and happy, free of pain. I try to hold on to that thought. You have so much love to give. I am glad that you adopted two new babies to share that love with. Big hugs my dear,

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I am right here thinking of you and precious Scoop. I say prayers for you both every nite. Hoping you a busy with those two little ones, even though I know your heart belongs to Scoop always. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Tonight it is 13 weeks since Scoop passed.
Tomorrow it will be 3 months.
Still so very hard to believe.
Love and miss my Scoop so very much.

[Budsters Mom]

I know how much you miss your sweet boy Vicki. Scoop loves you forever and will always be grateful that you are his mom. Our boys are now together and free of pain. Slowly, but surely things will start to get easier, but there is no rush. There is no time limit on grief. Please do whatever you need to do to cope in the now. The rest will take care of itself. Xxxxx

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Thinking and praying for you and your precious Scoop. I know your heart still aches for him. I hope with some more time it will lessen the pain. Blessings
Patti

[Simba's Mom]

prayers and hugs, it's a journey forsure

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Thinking of you Scoop and the new babies. Hope you are doing well my friend. Take care of yourself. Blessings
Patti

[spdd]

I wish I could ease the heartache a little for you. I'm sure hoping time will help to at least make it a bit easier.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Today my Tipper is 12. I am glad she made it this far, but am really sad knowing what is to come. Hope you and the babies are doing well. Thinking of you and Scoop.
Patti

[scoora]

Kathy, Patti, Letti, Judi,
Thank you all so much. You are all such wonderful friends.
Patti, I'm glad Tipper could celebrate her birthday. I hope she has many more!

Gus started with a cough this past Monday. Thursday Gus and Archie both went to the vet for distemper shots. He did not cough while there. She tried to get him to cough but he didn't. I thought it sounded like Archie's kennel cough but the vet couldn't get him to cough. So don't know what that's all about unless it has something to do with his nose.

Scoop's birthday is next week. He would have been 13. I would like to acknowledge it in some way. Does anyone do anything special for their furbabies' birthday after they have passed? I do plan on sending a donation to the Morris Animal Foundation.

[spdd]

I think the donation is excellent, sent in memory. I can't think of anything better to do to remember Scoop's birthday. Great idea.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
That is a wonderful thing to do in memory of your beloved Scoop. It will help other animals and that is what Scoop would want. Blessings
Patti

[apollo6]

Dear Vicki
That is a wonderful way of honoring Scoop. I light a candle on Apollo's birthday would have been 15, October 12, I give a donation to the human society.
Hugs Sonja and Angel Apollo

[Budsters Mom]

Vicki, What day is sweet Scoop's birthday? We most certainly will celebrate it here! Yes!, Our fur angels are still loved and cherish by us all! xxxx

[mypuppy]

Vicki,

I know and feel what you are going through. It hurts so much doesn't it. I'm with you and Scoop and my precious Princess. This is far from easy, worst than I had imagined. I need to know this will get better because it really doesn't feel close to that. I want my girl so badly. I know you feel the very same for Scoop. UGHHHHHH...

Tight hugs.

xo Jeanette

[scoora]

Thanks everyone.

Jeanette, I'm sorry you are going through this. It is very tough. It hurts.

Kathy, Scoop was born 10/7/2000. So Monday he would have been 13.

[Budsters Mom]

Okay, Monday it is!!!! I'll get the ball rolling on Monday morning. I am putting it in my calendar now! That will be the most important thing I do on Monday! :) We are going to honor sweet Scoop and you! Xxxx

[scoora]

THANKS Kathy

Scoop also passed away on a Monday so it will be 14 weeks this Monday that he is gone.

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Vicki. I am starting Scoops celebration now. It is already Monday the 7th for some of our angels, such as Trish and a few others. Soooooo, let's get the party started!

Happy 13th Birthday Angel Scoop!!! We honor you and your very special mom today. We will always honor your memory here. With much love,

[Robert]

Happy birthday Scoop.

[Bo's Mom]

Happy Birthday, Sweet Angel Scoop.

[scoora]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY my sweet boy SCOOP!!
All of us wish you were here with us to celebrate your 13th birthday.
We miss you and love you so very much.

[Harley PoMMom]

Happy Birthday, dear Scoop, You are missed and loved very much.

[mypuppy]

Happy Birthday to your precious boy!

With love,

Xo Jeanette

[molly muffin]

Happy Birthday Scoop. You are loved and missed so much.

Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[goldengirl88]

Scoop I know you are looking down after your mom, and have new friends from the forum with you now. Tipper and I want to wish you a happy birthday. When you see my Tipper please befriend her. God Bless you and your Mom.
Patti

[scoora]

Thank you for all the birthday wishes for my Scoop.

Happy Birthday Scoop!!

Love you Scoop,
Mom

[Budsters Mom]

I know that today was very hard for you. We have been right by your side honoring Sweet Scoop with you all day. Xxxxx

[scoora]

Kathy, Thank you. Yes it was a hard day.
I did send a donation to Morris Animal Foundation and a note telling them about Scoop and that it was his birthday. I got some special doggie treats that Scoop used to enjoy on his birthday before he became diabetic. Raleigh, Archie and Gus had a special treat for Scoop's birthday. One of Scoop's favorite toys was a hedgehog. Actually he had a couple of them. At the pet store where I got the treats they had a hedgie that is real soft. I couldn't resist buying it. It sits on his table along with a birthday card that has a Pug on it. Just couldn't resist.

[doxiesrock912]

Happy Birthday Scoop!

[Simba's Mom]

Aw Vicki, Happy Birthday Scoop, I bet he gets the biggest bone ever to celebrate!!! hugs

Sorry I'm so late wishing him birthday greetings...

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I am sure you had an extremely hard day on Scoop's birthday. You honored his memory well. Thank you for checking in and praying for my girl. This is a scary journey I am on with no guarantees of tomorrow. Blessings
Patti

[gatorgirl_bama]

Vicki,
Haven't heard from you in a few days so I wanted to check on you. I know the last week has been extremely difficult to handle and I'm thinking of you and Scoop. I hope you got your package and you liked it.

Much love and prayers,
Donna and Angel Tia

[scoora]

Donna, I can't thank you enough. I love the pictures!! They are fantastic. I sent you an email.
I wasn't on the computer at all last night.
I am also glad to hear Miss Tippi is feeling better.
Love and big hugs.

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Vicki,
Gus and Archie need their own thread in "Everything Else" so we can all fawn over our newest family members. :) i'd love to see some photos. Xxxx

[scoora]

Kathy, I was thinking about the thread. I also thought about posting pictures but haven't found the time yet.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Thanks for thinking of my Tipper she has had a rough week with all the Dr. appointments. Hope you and the babies are having fun together. How is the housebreaking going? Blessings to all and especially Scoop.
Patti

[addy]

Hi Vicki,

I have been thinking of you and the pups. Hope things are ok. Firsts are always hard but is sounds like you made Scoop's birthday a very special day to remember.

Hugs and love and special kisses to the babies

[scoora]

Patti and Addy, thanks.
Well the housebreaking is a little tough at times with 2. We don't have a fenced in yard so they have to be taken out on a leash. If I take the 2 of them out together they won't do anything. They just go after each other. So it's one at a time.

I tried to make Scoop's birthday special. He was a very special little guy. Even with Raleigh, Archie and Gus keeping me busy I still think of Scoop and miss him lots.

I started a thread in Everything Else for Archie and Gus. Archie got his rabies shot on Thursday morning and Friday morning he apparently had a seizure. Scared the crap out of my daughter and me.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Sorry to hear about the seizure. I am really skeptical of shots now since Tipper's cushings. She does not get anymore, and no flea stuff on her either. I know it is hard to take two dogs out. I have to take Tipper and Toby separately also. With puppies it seems like you just het them ready and outside, and you are getting ready again. I think of you and sweet Scoop often. God this is a terrible disease. Blessings
Patti

[gatorgirl_bama]

When Tia was diagnosed with AIHA, we quit giving her the shots. I read so much about it and just didn't want to take any chances. I've quit giving them to Miss Tippi also. Her vet agreed that she took them every year for 14 years and with her age and the fact that I didn't board them, we just felt they didn't need them. They still have their annual checkups, just no shots. Maybe I'm crazy, I don't know.

I was so lucky when it came to taking the girls out. They both went and did their business and came inside. Sometimes Tia would stay a little longer and I'd ask Tippi if she was just going to leave the baby. She would turn and look at Tia then run up to her as if to say "come on, I'm ready to go back inside"!

Patti, you are so right about this disease. It's a horrible one.

Vicki, I'm glad you like the picture of Scoop. It was my pleasure.

Donna and Angel Tia

[scoora]

Oh Donna, that's so sweet that Tippi would go back for her baby.
No, I don't think your crazy.
I agree too. Cushing's is horrible.
Thank you again for the picture!

[scoora]

I put a couple pictures in an album
Raleigh, Archie, Gus

Will do more another time.

[gatorgirl_bama]

Just thinking about you...

Donna

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Thinking about you and wanted to let you know I saw those two little cuddle bugs pictures, so cute they are with big brother Raleigh watching out for them. Hope you are well.
Blessings
Patti

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
Thinking of you and Scoop this morning. Hoping you are having fun with those two cuties. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Today it is 4 months since Scoop passed away.

Love you Scoop!!
Miss you!!

[Harley PoMMom]

Many huge and loving hugs being sent to you, dear Vicki.

[molly muffin]

4 months! Gosh, it doesn't seem that it could have been that long ago.
Big Hugs Vicki. I know you miss Scoop very much.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[scoora]

Thanks for the hugs.

[Budsters Mom]

Yes Vicki, it's still hard for me too.;) It's 4 months for Buddy too. I am thankful for each day I had with Buddy and I trudge on with each new day. Scoop will always be with you. Cherish those memories as you share your love with Raleigh, Archie and Gus. ((((Hugs))))

[scoora]

Kathy, Thank you. Thinking of you and Buddy too.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Thinking of you and precious Scoop. God Bless you both and hope the babies are doing well. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Today is Raleigh's 10th birthday.
My daughter Molly's birthday is also today.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY to Raleigh and Molly.
Molly is such a sweetheart. She has been a HUGE help to me with Scoop, Raleigh, Archie and Gus.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY and lots of love!
Mom

[scoora]

Patti, Thank you.
I am a bit worried about Archie. He had his blood work done to check his white cell count because it was high after he had his seizure. It is still high. It's the lymphocytes. The vet said normal is 4500 and Archie's is 8700. So now I'm worried about that. The vet said she is going to have the lab check the structure on a slide. Whatever that means. Hope and pray it's nothing.

[addy]

Wishing the happiest of birthdays for Raleigh and Molly. Put the worries in the drawer and celebrate the day:):):):):)

[Trish]

Big happy birthday to both your kids celebrating today, is there a feast on the day's agenda?? I hope Raleigh and Molly have an awesome birthday! xx

[scoora]

Thank you for the birthday wishes for Raleigh and Molly.

[scoora]

Trish, No feast. Molly bought Raleigh a special doggie treat for his birthday. It's called a Pup Pie.
It comes sliced. Raleigh, Archie and Gus have had some of it. It will take a few days to finish.
Molly went out with some of her friends for her birthday. They went to a place where they dressed up for Halloween. She was a flapper from the '20s. She had a good time.

[scoora]

Does anyone have pet insurance?

Does anyone know about or have experience with high white blood cell counts?

Is there anything that is natural that can be used to repel ticks? We have seen a few and I don't want to use Frontline, especially since Archie had that seizure. Everything scares me now. I'm afraid he will have a reaction.

[goldengirl88]

Valerie:
You have to read the fine print with the pet insurance, so many things are not covered. Some say it is just as good or better to put the premium money in a savings account for them, and you are better off. I got a product during the summer they were wipes from Vetri Science on Amazon. They had a smell to them and with Tipper's breathing problems I chose not to use them. They are all natural with lemon grasses etc. Sorry to hear the little one had a seizure. I am very leary of shots now since Tipper got Cushings I have been reading a lot on them. A lot of people feel there are too many vaccinations and they are the cause of problems in dogs. Just don't know about that one, but Tipper gets no more shots, and neither does my elderly cat. Hope the babies are well and belated birthday wishes to Raleigh. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

It was a year ago that Scoop had his first MRI and his ear surgery. I was so full of hope that things would get better for him after the good news following his surgery. Here it is a year later and Scoop has been gone over 4 months. It is still hard to believe and thinking about the hope I had a year ago brings a flood of tears to my eyes.
Miss you my sweet boy Scoop.
Always in my heart.
Love you.

[addy]

Oh Vicki,

It is so hard, big hugs and lots of love.

This may sound funny to you, but my Dad passed away 13 years ago but I still talk to him all the time. I just look up and talk away. For some reason it helps me.

This time of year makes thing even harder sometimes.

Lots of love, Scoop will always be in our hearts, Vicki, always.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Thinking of you and sweet Scoop, I know your heart still aches for him. Blessings
Patti

[Simba's Mom]

Sending hugs and prayers.....maybe Scoop and Simba have met :) and are happy running free.....

[scoora]

Addy-Thank you. No, it does not sound funny that you talk to your dad. I think that is wonderful and I'm glad it helps.

Patti-Thank you. I have 3 sweethearts here with me that I love so very much Raleigh, Archie and Gus but it still hurts when I think of Scoop.

Letti-Thank you. I hope so.

[addy]

Maybe you can talk to Scoop:):):)

[goldengirl88]

Vicki;
It is funny Addy would say that as I talk to my dad every day. I have been asking him for some of his strength to get thru this with Tipper. I think that is a wonderful idea. It makes me feel better too. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

I talk to Scoop on his In Loving Memory thread.
Every morning I go to his little table where his box is and say good morning and at night I tell him good night and that I love him. Several times a day I either go to or look at his table with his box of ashes, pictures, a few of his toys and flowers on it and I say hi or tell him I love him or that he is missed. When I leave the house I ask him to watch over his brothers while I'm gone.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I think that is a good thing. You need to express some of this emotion you are feeling, and I think talking to Scoop is a good thing. I am sure he hears you and is watching over the new babies, Raleigh and you. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

It is now 5 months since Scoop left us. Still miss him lots.
While I was eating Thanksgiving dinner my thoughts turned to Scoop and I wanted to cry. I held back the tears and watched Archie and Gus enjoying their first Thanksgiving. They had chicken instead of turkey because of Archie's GI issues but they still enjoyed it.

I hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I know how hard you have taken this. This disease has caused such devastation to people on here that I care about. It is so hard to read every time another baby passes. It is bound to get you down around the holidays without your beloved Scoop. I pray for you both still every nite. You will see your baby again one day. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Sending you Big Hugs too Vicki.

[scoora]

Thank you Patti and Sharlene.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I hope you are able to find out what is troubling Archie. I know it has to be a let down to get another baby with troubles right off the bat. I think of you often and know this will be a really hard Christmas for you without Scoop. Know I think of you and hope you can enjoy some of the holiday under the circumstances. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Patti,
Thank you so much.
I took Archie to the vet Wed. and Friday this past week. I will post about the visits on his thread if not tonight then maybe tomorrow night. Things are not getting any better and I am SO worried about Archie. I love that little guy so, so very much(as I do Raleigh, Gus and Scoop, too) and it is breaking my heart to see this happening and things aren't getting any better after weeks of this going on. The vet he saw on Wed. says that Archie's immune system hasn't caught up yet. It scares me because Scoop's immune system is what failed him. Archie has gone weeks without proper nutrition. How is his immune system supposed to get better? I'm no expert but all of this started after Archie had his rabies shot. Before his shot his stools were perfect. Never had a problem. He did a bit of itching but not near what he is doing now. Tonight he had the runs again. So, so frustrating. I think about Scoop and his problems and it breaks my heart. Now with Archie I am so, so scared. I think about his high white blood cell count he had after his seizure. I think I will ask the vet if she thinks it should be checked again since he is having all of these problems.

Doesn't anyone else think Archie's problems could have been caused from the rabies shot?

Christmas will definitely be hard thinking about Scoop. It will be so nice to see Archie and Gus enjoying their first Christmas. They are going to be spoiled just like a little kid at Christmas. I just wish Archie wasn't having these problems so I wouldn't have to worry about him.

[doxiesrock912]

Vicki,
have you mentioned the timing of the rabies shot and Archie's problems to the vet?
I hope that he gets better soon!

[scoora]

Valerie,
Thanks
I mentioned it to the vet on Wed. He doesn't usually see Archie so I said about the seizure the day after the shot and he said-immune system.
I then said to the vet on Friday that this all started after his shot. I don't remember what she said but it was like we can't tell anything like that for sure but she gave me the impression she thought it could be possible.

I was wondering if I should get the phone number for the manufacture of the vaccine and just call and mention to them what is going on. Not that it will do any good but I am so upset over all of this. It makes me cry and worry.

[labblab]

Vicki, you can certainly call the vaccine manufacturer to notify them about Archie's problems, especially the seizure. How is Gus doing now, though? You had mentioned that he had been having some of the other problems the same as Archie, and if so, something else must be involved for him.

Marianne

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I feel do bad about Archie as you did not need a sick baby right now. I for one am not ruling out that rabies shot. I believe as others so that all these vaccinations are not a good thing. Some you must have to protect your babies life, and are necessary, but others I question. Tipper had such a bad reaction to a vaccination made by Fort Dodge one time she almost did not make it. The poor little thing, being so itchy and all reminds me of Tipper as a pup. She was so itchy after I brought her home I was sure she must have fleas, and called the breeder. She had nothing but big old allergies and it went on from there. Knowing what I know now I would have never let them dose her with prednisone as we would not be on this journey if it were not for that. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Marianne, Gus is eating a regular diet. He still has messy poops off and on. He'll have a messy one or two then they will go back to being pretty good. Then messy, then good. He does itch some but not to the point where it is causing a problem like Archie's.

Archie's vet did call the vaccine manufacturer and report the seizure. I read on a website that Kathy directed me to that rabies vaccine can cause diarrhea, hives(he had hives on Wed.), allergies. Archie was just fine before the vaccine and now things just can't get straightened out. He is still a baby. This shouldn't be happening to him so young! How in the world is his stool problem going to get straightened out?

Patti, On Friday the vet said to me she knows how I feel about steroids so I think she is trying to avoid them but it might come to the point where it can't be avoided. Archie doesn't seem to be after himself as much since he has been on the Benadryl but a new lesion did pop up since Friday.

What was the vaccine for and what kind of reaction did Tipper have from it?

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Yes Tipper had a rabies shot. She swelled up so big so fast I had an emergency vets within 8 minutes of my house then and we barely made it. She was starting with anaphylaxis by the time we got there. She had never had this particular vaccine form this company before. She had welts raised up on her as big a sausages, and her skin was so blown up she looked like a pig because she is so pink underneath her fur. I had to throw her in the vets sink in cool water as they got her a shot of epinephrine . Her mouth was swelled twice it's size. Her temperature went so high they told me any higher and she may not make it, I was hysterical, but held myself together and bathed her continuously for about 1/2 an hour in the sink. Finally the temperature started to come down. It was not a good day to say the least. It started within an hour of the vaccination. Hope some how this helps you. I did call the manufacturer and they took the info, but were not to forthcoming with any information as to why this happened or if other dogs reacted like this. Blessings
Patti

[Freckles#3/Louise]

Yikes! These stories of reactions to rabies shots are very scary. Thankfully Freckles had her 3 year rabies in 2012 and does not need until 2015. If she is still alive then(at age 16.5 yrs) I will not give her the shot. Just not worth it at that age.

Louise

[labblab]

It sounds to me as though Tipper had an acute allergic reaction to the vaccine itself, just like what happens when people who are sensitive have immediate reactions to medications, or bee stings, or eating peanuts, etc. This can certainly be life-threatening, no doubt about it, and you would want to avoid that vaccine from that point onward. But it is a time-limited reaction. I believe this is a different scenario from what you are worried about with Archie, which is instead that you are afraid the vaccination triggered a long-term abnormality in his immune system.

It is true that this can sometimes happen, and I realize you are probably doubly worried because you don't want Gus to develop problems later on after his vaccination, too. So I am not discounting your worry in any way. But I think your vet is correct that there is really no way to know whether the vaccination is the true source of Archie's current problems. I know there are websites that link vaccinations to virtually any medical problem a dog could ever experience. And since all dogs in the U.S. are theoretically required to be vaccinated against rabies, based on some of those websites, an owner could worry that any medical problem their dog ever develops must surely have been caused by the vaccination.

In Archie's case, it is definitely true that the timing makes the connection seem much more suspicious. But I don't think you will ever be able to determine for certain whether the vaccination is at fault. So I think your vet will be doing the right thing by continuing to search for alternative causes/remedies that may exist. My heart does go out to you when you see these problems in one so young. As I mentioned on your other thread, my own Peg started exhibiting severe seasonal allergies before she was even four months old. Since they only manifest during the winter and she is perfectly fine in the summer, we know they are not food-related or medication-related. And my other dog, Luna, had extended episodes of diarrhea on-and-off during her first nine months, no matter what food we had her on. Fortunately, that finally straightened out for her all by itself (although we did find at one time she had worms which we had to eradicate) and now she seems to have an iron stomach! So even though Archie's allergies may be more of a long-term issue, I'm hoping that his GI problems will ultimately resolve -- and hopefully sooner rather than later.

Marianne

[scoora]

Marianne, It is scary to think about a long-term abnormality in Archie's immune system!! Can anything be done for that?

Gus will be getting his rabies shot when he is 6 months old. The vet said we could wait till then. That will be in January. Hopefully he won't have any problems after he gets his shot. I was originally thinking they both will get neutered after the new year but the vet said not to be in a hurry to get it done. So we will be waiting a while to do that.

I'm glad to hear Luna's diarrhea straightened itself out. I hope and pray Archie's gets better.

[infoviewer]

Vicki: So sorry Archie is having such a hard time. I would think animals could have allergies just like humans. Maybe the company would have some idea if this is what it is and can advise you on what to do. I think about you often and know this is going to be a hard holiday season for you since Scoop is gone. We are doing the best we can, just trying to get through it, but i try to remember my little CoCo was so sick and he is at peace now, but we are still sad, but know time will lessen the hurt somewhat since I have lost 3 doxies in the past, but for some reason this loss seems to hurt more. Hope you have a good holiday season with your family and sweet pets. Love, JoAnne

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I am so sorry you are facing this with Archie and I pray when Gus gets his shot everything goes alright. You did not need this after what you have been through. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

JoAnne, Thank you so much. Yes, it is tough when my thoughts turn to Scoop. Archie and Gus keep me busy but I still think of Scoop often. The holidays are hard.
I hope you have a good holiday as well.
Hugs

[scoora]

Patti, Thank you. I think of you and Tipper often and pray that she is doing well.
Hugs

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I hope you can have some glimmer of happiness with the babies for Christmas. I know how hard this will be for you. I hope Archie is doing better, and that you are able to enjoy him instead of so much worry about his health. You are a good mom so he has the best possible home he could have. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Hugs Vicki!

Sharlene and molly muffin

[doxiesrock912]

We always miss those who have gone during the holidays. I just can't seem to get in the spirit this year which is a first for me.

[scoora]

Patti, Sharlene, Valerie,
Thank you. This is Archie and Gus' first Christmas and they are going to be spoiled like little kids. I look forward to that but when my thoughts turn to Scoop it is so hard thinking he isn't going to be here to enjoy the holiday with Raleigh, Archie and Gus and all of his family.
I put a few pictures in an album from Christmas 2009. I have some other Christmas pictures but don't have them loaded in my computer. I will have to do that when I have time.
Archie's problems are still not straightened out and that worries me.

Happy holidays to everyone.
Love and hugs

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I will be thinking of you with your babies this holiday and thinking of your precious Scoop. I know he is looking down on his mom, and hoping you are able to enjoy some of Christmas. Blessings
Patti

[addy]

Thinking of you , sweetie.

[molly muffin]

Hi Viciki,

thinking of you and remember Scoop this holiday season.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[scoora]

Thank you everyone for remembering and thinking of my Scoop and all the well wishes for me and my boys.

Merry Christmas to everyone.

Hugs

[doxiesrock912]

Merry Christmas!

[scoora]

I hope everyone had a nice Christmas.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I hope you did too, as I thought of all the cush mom's and their babies. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

I hope you had a wonderful Christmas and the whole gang really enjoyed the day.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[scoora]

Patti and Sharlene, Thank you.
Raleigh, Archie and Gus enjoyed all their new toys and enjoyed having company. They had a little something special to eat. I took a chance and gave Archie some too. It's been over a week since he had any diarrhea. They had a special can of dog food that they shared. It was Christmas Day Dinner by Merrick. I didn't give Archie too much but they also had a bit of roast beef. Thank goodness he did not get diarrhea. He's been on Iams prescription diet.

My son had a calendar made for us. He put pictures of Scoop, Raleigh, Archie, Gus, his dog that passed away a couple of years ago, Mugzy, and his current dog, Comet, in the calendar. When I saw it, it made me cry.

It was a happy day watching Raleigh, Archie and Gus enjoy the day and also my grand daughter enjoying her new toys. Then there were times I thought of Scoop and tears would come to my eyes. So I had mixed emotions that day.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
The calendar was a wonderful gift. I am glad you got to enjoy part of the holiday with the new babies and Raleigh. I knew Scoop would be on your mind, but you did your best to give the babies a good time, and have fun with your grand daughter. Blessings
Patti

[molly muffin]

Sounds like a wonderful day and a wonderful gift.

hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

[scoora]

Patti and Sharlene.
I hope you had a nice Christmas.

Happy New Year to everyone.

Tonight it is 6 months since Scoop has been gone. It is still hard to believe.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I am just holidays are past. It is hard with no family. I am just blessed to have Tipper and that is all I am focusing on as it take all my time now that she has hurt her leg. This has become more than a full time job, but I will gladly do it for her. I am hoping you are able to get that business stopped with Archie spraying, that cannot be fun. I know these holidays were hard on you, and I hope the New Year brings you some much needed peace that you so deserve. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Patti, Thank you

[scoora]

Archie had blood work done last Friday. I got the results today.
I posted the highs and lows on the Everything Else thread.
If anyone has any comments about them I would love to hear them.
Thanks

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I am hoping that you can get that poor baby Archie straightened out somehow. I feel so bad that you are again dealing with an illness in one of your babies. Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

Patti, Thank you.

Does anyone have pet insurance?
If so, what company?
Thanks

[doxiesrock912]

Vicki,

if you have access to the magazine or online website for Consumer Reports, please search for what they have to say about pet insurance.

It's great for some and fairly useless to others. I'd hate to have you throw money away.

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Do a search for a site that compares the pet insurances and it will show which is best. I do not think any take pre-existing conditions though. I am sorry Archi continues to have problems, poor little thing. This is not something you need either after all you have been thru. Blessings
Patti

[gatorgirl_bama]

Happy Easter Vicki. I think of you and your furbabies often and pray y'all are doing good.

Sending lots of love,
Donna

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
Thinking of you and the boys and hoping for a Happy Easter for you all. How is Archie? Blessings
Patti

[scoora]

July 1-one year ago 11:10PM I got a call that my Scoop went into cardiac arrest while he was in the hospital. It is like it was just yesterday. It still hurts. He is thought of and missed every day.
He is and always will be loved very much.

Scoop-LOVE YOU
Mom, Dad, Molly, Raleigh, Archie, Gus

[LabDad]

Hi Vicki, I saw the email of your anniversary & want you to know that my Linda & I are remembering your struggles with Scoop over a year ago as we did our Lulu. Time certainly has a way of reminding us. It does get easier as time goes by, and we had a milestone with our new dog Stanley, and just four days ago was his one year anniversary being at our home. He has taken over both our heart as well as our property. It's his!

I have been busy with learning a new computer language (actually updated for the 21st century). It's a 1200 dollar 3 day class, the company gave me for free. I guess they felt I was very eager to learn, and I am since my last job with a company using the software laid me off. They refuse to update, which is their choice but then they also are going a different route, so they no longer wanted my services.

I am very hopeful this will be the best option for me to keep ahead and to be rehired. Hopefully, this time it will allow me to work at home most of the time.

Well, I hope you can have a good memorial of Scoop & look at his pictures, especially of the days he was the happiest being with you and your other dog.

How are you other dogs doing today? :)

[goldengirl88]

Hi Vicki:
Just remembering how we started on here almost together, and your sweet baby Scoop, and all the struggles you went thru. I honestly do not believe it is a year already. I know in your heart Scoop will live on forever. I think of you both a lot, and wish things had been different. These poor babies are so fragile from this disease, but they keep fighting on. Please know I wish I could take your pain away. You will be with Scoop again one day and he will be healthy once again. Blessings
Patti

[labblab]

Hi Vicki,

Just want you to know that I am especially thinking of you and sweet Scoop today. I know how hard these anniversaries can be, and I am sending you hugs and warm thoughts across the miles.

We will never forget your sweet boy, and how brave he was each and every day of his life.

Always in loving memory of Scoop, and always in honor of your devoted care,
Marianne

[Harley PoMMom]

Hi Vicki,

Just wanted to let you know that you are in my thoughts and prayers.

Always in loving memory of dear Scoop.

Love and hugs, Lori

[Budsters Mom]

Hi Vicki,

This anniversary is one no one wants to remember, but can't forget. ;) You, Scoop and all of your precious babies are in my thoughts and prayers today. Always in memory of Scoop. xxxxxx

Hugs,
Kathy

[molly muffin]

Some anniversaries are harder than others and this one has to be one of the harder ones. Sending love and hugs your way

Sharlene and molly muffin

[labblab]

Still thinking about you today, Vicki, and sending you warm hugs.

Marianne

[goldengirl88]

Vicki:
I left a message on Archie and Gus's thread for you and lit a candle for Scoop. I am so sorry you are faced with yet another dilemma with Raleigh's eyes. I am glad you are going to try to do the one as at least he will be able to see and have a decent quality of life. Thinking of you and saying a prayer for sweet Scoop. Blessings
Patti

[doxiesrock912]

Hugs Vicki,
I know the pain that you're feeling all too well. Hugs

[apollo6]

Dear Vicki
Sending you loving thoughts in remembrance of your precious Scoop.
May he be watching over you.
Hugs Sonja and Angel Apollo

[Renee]

Pug hugs from one pug mom to another.

[scoora]

Everyone,
I can't thank you all enough for all you kind, wonderful words.
For remembering my Scoop. It's been tough and knowing there are so many wonderful friends here to talk to is comforting to know.
Thank you for being here.
Hugs

[scoora]

Today I took Raleigh to see the ophthalmologist at the hospital where Scoop passed away. There was this one night nurse that was especially fond of Scoop. She told me she would take Scoop home if she could. She has a Pug. She was the nurse that discovered he wasn't breathing. She also was with my daughter and I when we saw Scoop after getting that phone call. She did the paw prints for us and gave me some of Scoop's fur and talked to us. Well the doctor today needed help to look at Raleigh's eyes and this nurse is now working days. She is the one that came in to help the doctor with Raleigh. My heart skipped a beat at that moment.

[AngelToto]

Vicki, I have only kept up with a few stories on this forum, and unfortunately have never been able to fully read yours. I come to the site every so often for tips, updates, and any information I can soak up from those with Cushings experience. My vet appears to be clueless and its only hitting me now. Scoop was a small pug just as my girl is. Do you mind if I ask how long he lived after the initial diagnosis? The words of my vet and the words of women on this board are hugely contradictory. If you don't want to talk about it, I understand and apologize profusely. But Scoop seems to have been with you through so much, how long were you together? How quickly did he deteriorate? Was it a slow process? I think my dog is being mistreated and improperly medicated. Desperately looking for an expert vet on Cushings but it is a challenge.

[labblab]

Hi Erin, I am not Vicki, of course :o. But just wanted you to know that I have placed a copy of your reply on your own thread about Toto. I have also shifted over a response from Patti. I think it will be easier for everybody, including Vicki, to continue the discussion of your questions on Toto's thread. That way, they can answer you directly. Here's a link to your thread so that everybody can easily find it:

http://www.k9cushings.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6070

Scoop was a very brave little boy who faced many challenges in his journey. In addition to Cushing's, he was diabetic. And the pituitary tumor that caused the Cushing's was expanding and required treatment in its own right. Every furbaby's journey is unique, of course. But Scoop was, and remains, truly one of our dear heroes.

Marianne

[scoora]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY SCOOP

Today, Oct.7, is my sweet boy Scoop's birthday.
He would have been 14 today.
He is still loved and missed so very much.

[doxiesrock912]

Happy Birthday Scoop!

[mytil]

Big Happy Birthday wishes to you sweetie pie Scoop!!!! I know he has been watching over you.

Terry

[Budsters Mom]

happy birthday scoop!keep a close eye on your cake, otherwise Buddy will eat it all!

[Squirt's Mom]

Happy Birthday, Scoop!


PS...watch out for Squirty, she's a PIG! :D