PDA

View Full Version : Meet Beethoven: an atypical Cushings CKCS



accentmonkey
08-11-2012, 09:38 AM
Hello everyone,

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/3090_10151118856624359_757520552_n.jpg

Here is Beethoven, who we got from a rescue in June of this year. Beets was surrendered to the pound in Dublin when his owner died, and was in foster care for about two months before we adopted him, so we don't know how old he is or much about his history. What we do know is that he's quite deaf, has some separation anxiety issues, and was massively overweight when he arrived at the pound: 17.5 kgs!
His fosters put him on a diet, and by the time we adopted him he was 13.6 kgs. We were told he had arthritis and he takes a daily dose of Loxicom to help keep him steady, because, they told us "he falls down a lot".
We noticed that yes, he did fall down a lot, and he had no power in his legs at all. Added to which, he was always panting, always drinking, always STARVING, and he was a funny shape. I pointed all this out to my vet when I brought him along for a checkup (always like to get a new arrival checked over) and she agreed that he just didn't look right. I told her his pee stained the concrete in the back yard, so we tested it. Nothing. We tested his bloods, because my vet thought he had Cushings. Nothing. We tested all his organ functions when we took him to be neutered and have a tooth out. Still nothing; in fact, Beets was in remarkably good condition for a dog who has been on Loxicom for some time. But still my vet was convinced he had Cushings. His legs shake. He has hair loss on his sides. He looks like a cow.
After a couple of weeks of looking things up online and talking to other vets, she asked me to bring him in for a different blood test that would have to be sent off to a lab in the UK (and would cost over €100). She assured me this would be the last test "and then we'll leave him alone."
The results just came back to say that he has atypical Cushings related to his sex hormones.
I don't know yet what his levels are or what treatment he's likely to be on, because my vet wants to consult with an endocrine specialist before we start him on anything, but I just wanted to come and say hi and read other people's stories, and also praise my vet for her persistence and hard work (yes, I did buy her a present). I'm not expecting major changes to come over him as a result of the medication, but I'm hoping he'll be more comfortable and be a little bit more robust.
These little steps we bought him so he can get up and down off the sofa are great and I recommend them to everyone, but I still can't get him to use the ramp for the car (naturally, since it was very expensive).
So that's Beethoven's story. He's now almost at his target weight of 11.5 kgs so we've taken him off his R/D and he's on Hills Science Adult Light food, and I hope to be able to post more positive news about him in the future.
Trish

MODERATOR NOTE: Your post has been manually approved so that members can start responding to you. Please check your email for a message from k9cushings. You will need to reply to that email so that your post go directly to the board and are not delayed waiting for approval. If you have already received and responded to the confirmatory email, please be patient. Your registration will be finalized shortly. Thanks and welcome!

Jenny & Judi in MN
08-11-2012, 10:17 AM
Hi Trish, welcome to the forum. Beethoven is one cute very lucky pup to have found you! love the steps for the couch

I don't know anything about atypical but am so glad your vet does :)

Judi

Squirt's Mom
08-11-2012, 10:26 AM
Hi Trish and welcome to you and Beethoven! :)

What a handsome guy he is!

It's good to know there is a lab in the UK that is doing the testing for Atypical...to our knowledge, the University of TN in Knoxville was the only lab doing this work.

My Squirt is also Atypical. Her treatment regime was melatonin and lignans, as recommended by UTK, until last summer when her cortisol started to rise. At that point, we added in a maintenance dose of Lysodren. She weighs 15 lbs and takes 125mg twice a week. UTK does not recommend Trilostane (Vetoryl) for Atypical pups as it has been shown to cause elevations in some of the intermediate, or sex, hormones. However, there are vets who do use Trilo with Atypical and the pups seem to do fine. I have chosen to stick with UTK's recommendations. ;) Squirt has done very well on this treatment plan so far. We just had another UTK panel run last week and are waiting on the results.

I am glad you found us and look forward to learning more about the both of you as time passes. You and Beets are family now and we will be with you the whole way - you are not alone. Never hesitate to ask questions and we will do our best to help you understand or we will learn together.

Hugs,
Leslie and the gang

accentmonkey
08-11-2012, 10:46 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome folks. It's good to know that there's somewhere to voice doubts and ask questions and get extra help for the little man. I'll post more when the expert gets back to our vet.

Trish

molly muffin
08-11-2012, 12:26 PM
Welcome Trish.

Beets is a gorgeous guy. How lucky to have found you and you him.
We have some members who have gone through atypical cushings, like Leslie. It's always nice to have someone to share experiences with. Especially when it come to our little ones. :)

Welcome again,
Hugs,
Sharlene and Molly Muffin

MBK
08-12-2012, 12:25 PM
Trish,

I just wanted to welcome you and Beethoven. He is so beautiful and so lucky to have found such a caring new owner after the trauma of losing his first owner. I truly believe dogs grieve for their losses, just as humans do. But, he certainly ended up right where he needs to be with someone who will get him the help he needs!

Love the steps! I have a similar one for my two Jack Russells! Hopefully, he will get the hang of that nice ramp! :D