Selterz
05-13-2011, 10:25 PM
Hi,
My dog Bonnie is on vetoryl for 3 months now. I had similar problems like you had initially.
I am wrapping her tablet in roasted chicken skin. I feed her a bit of chicken breast and in between give her medication. She simply gulps it down without even chewing it.
They need to have it with food and my vet insisted that it should be without breaking the tablet.
She looks forward having her medication every day now. The trick is have the second bite ready to give right after the wrapped pill so she does not chew it but gulp it down so she can have the second bite :-D.
Bonnie looks a lot better now. She could be given a higher dosage (she is on 30 mg). But to minimise the risk her vet and me decided to keep her on that dosage for now.
All the best with your little blessing angel.
CookieJones;31957]Hi. We're new here and very glad to have found this group. Our 13 yr old Bichon was diagnosed with Cushings (vet sent to Univ of Tennessee), and he's fairly sure it's adrenal.
We're dying to treat the Cushings because it's making her miserable (heat intolerance, panting, overweight, lethargy, weak legs, etc), but we have two complications.
First, she's prone to bladder stones, so the vet has her on daily Clindamycin to prevent bladder infections. Second, she's impossible to pill. Not just difficult, but impossible. She chokes if we try to force it down. So meds must be given either mixed with food, or - in the case of Clindamycin (nasty bitter taste) - mixed with water and squirted in her mouth with an oral syringe (followed by a strong-tasting treat).
The 'impossible to pill' part is the big challenge. Two months ago we tried Vetoryl 30mg - opening the caps and mixing with food (yes even though the insert says not to). We had to stop it after a few weeks because of vomiting/dry heaves and increased lethargy. But the strength in her legs had started to improve, and the vet said her 2-week follow up test was perfect, so the dosage, at least, was not the problem. More importantly, about a day after we stopped the Vetoryl, she started getting much better, bouncing around like a puppy, climbing stairs with no problem, and overall a very happy dog. We hadn't seen that in years. It lasted about two weeks, then she slowly reverted to her old, lethargic, weak-legged self. The vet thinks the Vetoryl had probably just started to work when we had to stop it.
That raises my first question - is the vomiting likely due to taking the Vetoryl out of the capsules? I've searched all over but can't find the reasoning behind this restriction. Does anyone know - Is it merely unknown/untested? Or is it actually known to harm the dog? Or just due to the handling risk to humans (eg a pregnant woman)?
Now we've found a reputable pharmacy that compounds a liquid suspension form using real Vetoryl as the base. We started her on that 10 days ago (at a lower dose - 20mg) via oral syringe. But yesterday she got a bit of the dry heaves, so I'm worried we may have to stop it again. Which would be a shame, because it looks like it's starting to work again.
Anyone have experience or thoughts re this? She still has a huge appetite and has not lost any weight. Could the liquid suspension form be the problem? Or could the Vetoryl be reacting with the Clindamycin maybe? They're given roughly 8 hours apart (Vetoryl 9am empty stomach, Clindamycin 5pm before dinner).
She gets her 2-week follow-up in 4 days, unless I stop the Vetoryl before then.
Any thoughts/advice greatly.
My dog Bonnie is on vetoryl for 3 months now. I had similar problems like you had initially.
I am wrapping her tablet in roasted chicken skin. I feed her a bit of chicken breast and in between give her medication. She simply gulps it down without even chewing it.
They need to have it with food and my vet insisted that it should be without breaking the tablet.
She looks forward having her medication every day now. The trick is have the second bite ready to give right after the wrapped pill so she does not chew it but gulp it down so she can have the second bite :-D.
Bonnie looks a lot better now. She could be given a higher dosage (she is on 30 mg). But to minimise the risk her vet and me decided to keep her on that dosage for now.
All the best with your little blessing angel.
CookieJones;31957]Hi. We're new here and very glad to have found this group. Our 13 yr old Bichon was diagnosed with Cushings (vet sent to Univ of Tennessee), and he's fairly sure it's adrenal.
We're dying to treat the Cushings because it's making her miserable (heat intolerance, panting, overweight, lethargy, weak legs, etc), but we have two complications.
First, she's prone to bladder stones, so the vet has her on daily Clindamycin to prevent bladder infections. Second, she's impossible to pill. Not just difficult, but impossible. She chokes if we try to force it down. So meds must be given either mixed with food, or - in the case of Clindamycin (nasty bitter taste) - mixed with water and squirted in her mouth with an oral syringe (followed by a strong-tasting treat).
The 'impossible to pill' part is the big challenge. Two months ago we tried Vetoryl 30mg - opening the caps and mixing with food (yes even though the insert says not to). We had to stop it after a few weeks because of vomiting/dry heaves and increased lethargy. But the strength in her legs had started to improve, and the vet said her 2-week follow up test was perfect, so the dosage, at least, was not the problem. More importantly, about a day after we stopped the Vetoryl, she started getting much better, bouncing around like a puppy, climbing stairs with no problem, and overall a very happy dog. We hadn't seen that in years. It lasted about two weeks, then she slowly reverted to her old, lethargic, weak-legged self. The vet thinks the Vetoryl had probably just started to work when we had to stop it.
That raises my first question - is the vomiting likely due to taking the Vetoryl out of the capsules? I've searched all over but can't find the reasoning behind this restriction. Does anyone know - Is it merely unknown/untested? Or is it actually known to harm the dog? Or just due to the handling risk to humans (eg a pregnant woman)?
Now we've found a reputable pharmacy that compounds a liquid suspension form using real Vetoryl as the base. We started her on that 10 days ago (at a lower dose - 20mg) via oral syringe. But yesterday she got a bit of the dry heaves, so I'm worried we may have to stop it again. Which would be a shame, because it looks like it's starting to work again.
Anyone have experience or thoughts re this? She still has a huge appetite and has not lost any weight. Could the liquid suspension form be the problem? Or could the Vetoryl be reacting with the Clindamycin maybe? They're given roughly 8 hours apart (Vetoryl 9am empty stomach, Clindamycin 5pm before dinner).
She gets her 2-week follow-up in 4 days, unless I stop the Vetoryl before then.
Any thoughts/advice greatly.